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Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:54 am
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:54 am
We did this about a month ago. Mine has changed a lot since then. Now approaching the draft, it would be interesting to get it up to date.
It's simple, list your Top 15 choices in order of preference. I'll total them up before Thursday. I'll start, add yours.
Eric Fisher
Joeckel
Jarvis Jones
Dion Jordan
Lotulelei
Lane Johnson
Shariff Floyd
Mingo
Xavier Rhodes
Milliner
Ansah
Werner
Richardson
Ogletree
Tavon Austin
It's simple, list your Top 15 choices in order of preference. I'll total them up before Thursday. I'll start, add yours.
Eric Fisher
Joeckel
Jarvis Jones
Dion Jordan
Lotulelei
Lane Johnson
Shariff Floyd
Mingo
Xavier Rhodes
Milliner
Ansah
Werner
Richardson
Ogletree
Tavon Austin
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:04 pm to blueslover
Fisher
Joekel
Johnson
Star
Ansah
Floyd
Jones
Rhodes
Millner
Richardson
Eifert
Jordan
Ogeltree
Austin
Reid
Joekel
Johnson
Star
Ansah
Floyd
Jones
Rhodes
Millner
Richardson
Eifert
Jordan
Ogeltree
Austin
Reid
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:06 pm to blueslover
Fisher
Joeckel
Johnson
Star
Jordan
Floyd
Jones
Milliner
Ansah
Mingo
Rhodes
Carradine
Ogletree
Cyrpien
Watson
Joeckel
Johnson
Star
Jordan
Floyd
Jones
Milliner
Ansah
Mingo
Rhodes
Carradine
Ogletree
Cyrpien
Watson
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:07 pm to blueslover
1. Fisher
2. Joekel
3. Lotulelei
4. Dion Jordan
5. Jarvis Jones
6. Shariff Floyd
7. Lane Johnson
8. Ziggy Ansah
9. Mingo
10. Ogletree
11. Milliner
12. Rhodes
13. Vaccaro
14. Tank Carradine
15. Tavon
2. Joekel
3. Lotulelei
4. Dion Jordan
5. Jarvis Jones
6. Shariff Floyd
7. Lane Johnson
8. Ziggy Ansah
9. Mingo
10. Ogletree
11. Milliner
12. Rhodes
13. Vaccaro
14. Tank Carradine
15. Tavon
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:14 pm to St Augustine
1 Dion Jordan
2 a/b Joekel/Fisher
4 Floyd
5 Milliner
6 Ziggy
7 Mingo
8 Johnson
9 Star
10 Cooper
11 Jarvis Jones
12 Austin
13 Rhodes
14 Richardson
15 Warmack
2 a/b Joekel/Fisher
4 Floyd
5 Milliner
6 Ziggy
7 Mingo
8 Johnson
9 Star
10 Cooper
11 Jarvis Jones
12 Austin
13 Rhodes
14 Richardson
15 Warmack
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:18 pm to Chad504boy
2b= #3
No squeezing in more. I had to edit Carradine out last minute but I wanted him on the end of the list bad. I tried hard to put Cooper or Warmack for straight value but couldn't get them in either.
No squeezing in more. I had to edit Carradine out last minute but I wanted him on the end of the list bad. I tried hard to put Cooper or Warmack for straight value but couldn't get them in either.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:19 pm to blueslover
Joeckel
Fisher
Johnson
Jordan
Star
Floyd
Jones
Mingo
Ansah
Ogletree
Milliner
Vaccaro
Patterson
Rhodes
Austin
Why did you decide to abandon your other (identical) thread?
Fisher
Johnson
Jordan
Star
Floyd
Jones
Mingo
Ansah
Ogletree
Milliner
Vaccaro
Patterson
Rhodes
Austin
Why did you decide to abandon your other (identical) thread?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:20 pm to blueslover
I'm leaving mine the same. Nice to see a few people catching on to Tank.
1.Luke Joeckel
2.Shariff Floyd
3.Dion Jordan
4.Jarvis Jones
5.Eric Fisher
6.Star Lotulelei
7.Lane Johnson
8.Ziggy Ansah
9.Barkevious Mingo
10.Kenny Vacarro
11.Xavier Rhodes
12.Cornellius Carradine
13.Dee Milliner
14.Damontre Moore
15.Keenan Allen
1.Luke Joeckel
2.Shariff Floyd
3.Dion Jordan
4.Jarvis Jones
5.Eric Fisher
6.Star Lotulelei
7.Lane Johnson
8.Ziggy Ansah
9.Barkevious Mingo
10.Kenny Vacarro
11.Xavier Rhodes
12.Cornellius Carradine
13.Dee Milliner
14.Damontre Moore
15.Keenan Allen
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:21 pm to blueslover
quote:
No squeezing in more.
i didn't, i went to #4 after.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:22 pm to GOON
quote:
Why did you decide to abandon your other (identical) thread?
no traction, peeps see it as an old thread and don't even look anymore I think. Started this one and it is rolling right along.
-yo, otay chad, missed dat
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 2:16 pm to blueslover
round'em up, don't be scared to make your secret list public
Posted on 4/22/13 at 2:33 pm to blueslover
Ansah
Fisher
Joeckel
Jordan
Mingo
Floyd
Star
Johnson
Jones
DJ Hayden
Milliner
Ogletree
Trufant
Cyprien
Elam
Fisher
Joeckel
Jordan
Mingo
Floyd
Star
Johnson
Jones
DJ Hayden
Milliner
Ogletree
Trufant
Cyprien
Elam
This post was edited on 4/23/13 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:07 pm to blueslover
Star Lotulelei
Jarvis Jones
Mingo
Jordan
Floyd
Joeckle
Fisher
Ansah
Xavier Rhodes
Desmond Trufant
Sheldon Richardson
Ogletree
Dee Millner
Geno Smith
Kevin Minter
Lane Johnson
Jarvis Jones
Mingo
Jordan
Floyd
Joeckle
Fisher
Ansah
Xavier Rhodes
Desmond Trufant
Sheldon Richardson
Ogletree
Dee Millner
Geno Smith
Kevin Minter
Lane Johnson
Posted on 4/22/13 at 4:39 pm to blueslover
Joeckel
Lotulelei
Fisher
Jordan
Floyd
Jones
Johnson
Warmack
Cooper
Ansah
Eifert
Milliner
Austin
Sylvester Williams
Minter
Lotulelei
Fisher
Jordan
Floyd
Jones
Johnson
Warmack
Cooper
Ansah
Eifert
Milliner
Austin
Sylvester Williams
Minter
Posted on 4/22/13 at 5:43 pm to blueslover
My opinion has changed, especially on Mingo. I think the top 3 OTs would help out the most from the start, but the potential and possible instant impact from an OLB intrigues me the most. I desperately want this defense to have a play-maker.
I'll also point out that it's kind of crazy that who many projected as possibilites at OLB/not real possibilities at OLB have flip-flopped. Jones and Mingo were considered basically unattainable, where as Jordan and Ansah were being looked at as potential draftees. This has obviously shifted.
_________________________________________________________
How I Rank Them:
Luke Joekel - Sure starter, excellent OT with great footwork. Would be set at the position for a very long time without worrying. Could improve the play of Brees.
Eric Fisher - Put he an Joekel as 1 A and 1 B. He's an immediate impact starter, yadda yadda. I rate him similarly to Joekel. He's a guarantee.
Jarvis Jones - Oddly enough, for a long time this guy was thought as basically no chance for the Saints to draft. Recent events has lead him to drop, and the fact that the Saints actually have a chance to land this guy gives me a major boner. He's a play-maker and something this defense needs. He tore up the best competition in college, and I think he absolutely has the potential to do so in the NFL.
Dion Jordan - While Jones, along with Mingo were looked at as "no legit chance of getting" OLBs, many on this board were looking at the possibility of either Jordan or Ansah. His stock climbed drastically and rightfully so, the guy is freakish. I'd love to have this guy. A lot of power and length.
Barkevious Mingo - I wasn't high on him at first, but after watching more film and observing just him in particular, my thoughts have changed. He's raw, but he has the potential to be scary good. He has a Pierre-Paul/Aldon Smith feel to him. I'm not sure if he could be quite on that level, but the potential is definitely there. He also has the build to add more to his frame.
Ziggy Ansah - Even more rawness than Mingo, but he's a freak specimen with so much athleticism. If he can pull it all together he will be an animal. Another guy I look at like Ansah is Margus Hunt, but he's projected as a late 1st to early 2nd rounder. Ansah was a guy many thought the Saints would have a chance at drafting before his stock climbed.
Lane Johnson - Right up there with the top two OTs, and easily could be rated just as high.
Star Louteleli - The only reason I have him higher than Floyd is because DT/Nose is a higher need than End, which is where Floyd fits, where I feel Jordan and Hicks could make some noise, along with Smith in a limited role. OLB and Nose are the most important spots of the 3-4, Star would be a great piece. I feel that Bunkley (Hicks could also play some NT) could man the nose position, but Star would be an upgrade.
Shariff Floyd - Outstanding, powerful lineman. But doesn't fit the need as much as the above players. He's a DT/DE, and would be used as an end in the 3-4 scheme. Would definitely be a good addition to the defensive line.
The rest:
Dee Milliner
Xavier Rhodes
Bjoern Werner
Alec Ogletree
Tavon Austin
Sheldon Richardson
_____________________
I agree with most who say that the big name OTs would immediately start and be upgrades over what we have, no question, but I feel that we do actually have enough there to suffice. The team could also bring in later draft picks to compete at OT. For OLB the team has 3 potential guys, but none proven. A pick here wouldn't be proven either, but 4 potential guys is better than 3, and at a position like OLB, which is arguably the most important of the 3-4, I'd like to better the odds.
I'll also point out that it's kind of crazy that who many projected as possibilites at OLB/not real possibilities at OLB have flip-flopped. Jones and Mingo were considered basically unattainable, where as Jordan and Ansah were being looked at as potential draftees. This has obviously shifted.
_________________________________________________________
How I Rank Them:
Luke Joekel - Sure starter, excellent OT with great footwork. Would be set at the position for a very long time without worrying. Could improve the play of Brees.
Eric Fisher - Put he an Joekel as 1 A and 1 B. He's an immediate impact starter, yadda yadda. I rate him similarly to Joekel. He's a guarantee.
Jarvis Jones - Oddly enough, for a long time this guy was thought as basically no chance for the Saints to draft. Recent events has lead him to drop, and the fact that the Saints actually have a chance to land this guy gives me a major boner. He's a play-maker and something this defense needs. He tore up the best competition in college, and I think he absolutely has the potential to do so in the NFL.
Dion Jordan - While Jones, along with Mingo were looked at as "no legit chance of getting" OLBs, many on this board were looking at the possibility of either Jordan or Ansah. His stock climbed drastically and rightfully so, the guy is freakish. I'd love to have this guy. A lot of power and length.
Barkevious Mingo - I wasn't high on him at first, but after watching more film and observing just him in particular, my thoughts have changed. He's raw, but he has the potential to be scary good. He has a Pierre-Paul/Aldon Smith feel to him. I'm not sure if he could be quite on that level, but the potential is definitely there. He also has the build to add more to his frame.
Ziggy Ansah - Even more rawness than Mingo, but he's a freak specimen with so much athleticism. If he can pull it all together he will be an animal. Another guy I look at like Ansah is Margus Hunt, but he's projected as a late 1st to early 2nd rounder. Ansah was a guy many thought the Saints would have a chance at drafting before his stock climbed.
Lane Johnson - Right up there with the top two OTs, and easily could be rated just as high.
Star Louteleli - The only reason I have him higher than Floyd is because DT/Nose is a higher need than End, which is where Floyd fits, where I feel Jordan and Hicks could make some noise, along with Smith in a limited role. OLB and Nose are the most important spots of the 3-4, Star would be a great piece. I feel that Bunkley (Hicks could also play some NT) could man the nose position, but Star would be an upgrade.
Shariff Floyd - Outstanding, powerful lineman. But doesn't fit the need as much as the above players. He's a DT/DE, and would be used as an end in the 3-4 scheme. Would definitely be a good addition to the defensive line.
The rest:
Dee Milliner
Xavier Rhodes
Bjoern Werner
Alec Ogletree
Tavon Austin
Sheldon Richardson
_____________________
I agree with most who say that the big name OTs would immediately start and be upgrades over what we have, no question, but I feel that we do actually have enough there to suffice. The team could also bring in later draft picks to compete at OT. For OLB the team has 3 potential guys, but none proven. A pick here wouldn't be proven either, but 4 potential guys is better than 3, and at a position like OLB, which is arguably the most important of the 3-4, I'd like to better the odds.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 6:37 pm to CocoLoco
I left Richardson off because I'm worried about him being out of position switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Do yall think this would stop us from taking him if he were to somehow slip past Carolina?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 7:01 pm to Zoltan
no. Apparently he projects pretty well as a 3-4 end
Posted on 4/22/13 at 7:16 pm to St Augustine
I was borderline on Richardson myself. But as said, I think he could be that good even as a 3-4DE.
If I dropped him I'd prolly move Carradine into my 15
11 list so far, please add yours if not in. It would provide an immediate guage for you to know what ST will think of the pick
If I dropped him I'd prolly move Carradine into my 15
11 list so far, please add yours if not in. It would provide an immediate guage for you to know what ST will think of the pick
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 7:20 pm to blueslover
Blues you may get more feedback if you edit thread title to include something like "submit your top 15 to help compile" 
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:46 pm to blueslover
Joeckel
Star
Fisher
Mingo
Jordan
Ansah
Johnson
Jones
Floyd
Millner
Rhodes
Reid
Patterson
Austin
Minter
I picked who I thought could have the biggest impact next year for our team.
I really wish I could have put Jamie Collins, Reid Fragel, Rambo, and TM on the list...
Star
Fisher
Mingo
Jordan
Ansah
Johnson
Jones
Floyd
Millner
Rhodes
Reid
Patterson
Austin
Minter
I picked who I thought could have the biggest impact next year for our team.
I really wish I could have put Jamie Collins, Reid Fragel, Rambo, and TM on the list...
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 9:06 pm
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