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Antonio Moss
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Gun violence has killed nearly one million people since 1980.




Misleading.






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4LSU2
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Gun violence has killed nearly one million people since 1980. It's time for gun reform. It's time for waiting periods. It's time for background checks. It's time for registration. It's time for extended magazine and assault weapons bans.


You couldn't more off base if you tried. It's time for the leaders of the black population to address the insane violence of their community. Gun laws in Chicago do not work, plain and simple. I want to see a breakdown in the demographics of the crimes committed in Chicago, but no one will produce that because it would be considered racist in nature.

I turn on the local New Orleans news at 5am, 5pm, and 10pm of every day. The daily gun violence is committed by blacks and against blacks or the most part. The numbers around New Orleans is all too telling. I will not go into the city without a gun in my possession to simply protect myself. I work in the city at least two days a week.






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Choirboy
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It's time for gun reform. It's time for waiting periods. It's time for background checks. It's time for registration. It's time for extended magazine and assault weapons bans.


I'm glad you're able to have your own opinion. I am also glad that I am able to lawfully own a gun without being on some federal database somewhere. Banning guns will not stop evil people from doing evil things. Banning guns will only stop law abiding folks like myself from protecting myself or my family.






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Antonio Moss
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Gun violence has killed nearly one million people since 1980.


So suicide is considered violence now?

It's hard to take someone seriously when they intentionally mislead people with their argument.

Exclude suicides, and that number drops way under 500,000.

I don't think many people are worried about access to guns causing unintended suicides.




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Jcorye1
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I guess I'm confused. I don't see anywhere in the proposed changes that even come close to banning firearms. Having a gun should be a privilege for those who aren't crazy and a non criminal. Could someone please explain the slope into complete banning of guns and how in the frick it got so slippery??



Criminals with non-violent crimes should be able to legally own guns.






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SlowFlowPro
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It's time for gun reform. It's time for waiting periods. It's time for background checks. It's time for registration. It's time for extended magazine and assault weapons bans.

you do realize the 94 AWB didn't really do shit, right? we've done this before, and it had no real impact






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Antonio Moss
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you do realize the 94 AWB didn't really do shit, right? we've done this before, and it had no real impact


Doesn't matter.






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Antonio Moss
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Having a gun should be a privilege for those who aren't crazy and a non criminal


Crazy and stupid people do a lot more damage with votes than they do with guns . . . and voting isn't even a right.







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SlowFlowPro
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i'm just waiting for a major progressive to pull a daily show and link the 94 AWB to the drop in American crime





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Choirboy
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you do realize the 94 AWB didn't really do shit, right? we've done this before, and it had no real impact



See this is trying to apply logic and rational thinking.






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SlowFlowPro
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See this is trying to apply logic and rational thinking.

it's more of citing empirical evidence, but i get what you're saying

people of the progressive ilk love empirical evidence...if we're talking about religion, global warming, evolution, etc






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CajunAngele
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Whoever support this above the law corrupt president needs their head examined or they are a cyber warrior that gets paid nine bucks an hour.





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PRK
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There is no reason to oppose background checks, waiting periods, and registration. SCOTUS established in DC v. Heller that there is an individual right to gun ownership under the 2nd Amendment. The government won't be taking your guns. It's time for reasonable, common sense solutions to the senseless volume of gun crime.


Or, like some posters in this thread, you could blame black people.






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El Josey Wales
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Or, like some posters in this thread, you could blame black people.


If the Air Jordan fits.






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SlowFlowPro
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There is no reason to oppose background checks, waiting periods, and registration.

why should i not be able to sell a gun to another party that i know would pass them all? why add the tax?

hell, why prevent poor minorities from being able to legally own guns? they will have to pay a good bit more for the FFL transfer AND they will have to present ID (which is difficult, per the argumetns re: voter ID laws)

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It's time for reasonable, common sense solutions

you just used the PR phrase

why do we want to expand a program that didn't work 1994-2004? how is that policy reasonable or based in common sense?

"common sense" tells me that if it didn't work before, it won't work now






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SlowFlowPro
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Or, like some posters in this thread, you could blame black people.

who commits a disproportionate amount of murders in teh US?

who typically is the majority cause in areas of high crime violence?

are you being purposefully obtuse?






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Scruffy
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There is no reason to oppose background checks, waiting periods, and registration.
Sure there are. There are multiple reasons why I should oppose any new gun legislation.

You know what those reasons are and I'm quite sure you would call anyone paranoid for stating them, so I'm not going to even bother.
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The government won't be taking your guns.
Governments have done it in the past. Not sure why you believe ours won't eventually attempt to.
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It's time for reasonable, common sense solutions to the senseless volume of gun crime.
Another individual who is uninformed on the actual statistics. I'll post some for you.

Crime Statistics From 2011:

Violent Crimes (all): 1,203,564

The last time it was nearly that low was in 1983 (1,258,090 violent crimes committed).

The last time it was actually lower was in 1978 (1,085,550 violent crimes committed).

Forcible Rape: 83,425

Lowest number since 1983 (78,920 forcible rapes).

Murder: 14,612

Lowest number since 1968 (13,800).

Aggravated Assault: 751,131

Lowest number since 1985 (723,250).

Total Crime: 10,266,737

Lowest number since 1974 (10,253,400).

That is all with our population at 311,591,917. Which is 72,851,917 people less than 1985 (238,740,000). I picked 1985 because it is the closest year I found in the stats I posted. I could use 1969 (the year after the last time murders were lower than they are now) and our population would be ~110,000,000 more people, yet we have less murders.

LINK

All of the stats on that site are from the FBI crime statistics.

So, I ask, why the hell do we need more legislation if our crime is decreasing?



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OLDBEACHCOMBER
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It's time for gun reform. It's time for waiting periods. It's time for background checks. It's time for registration. It's time for extended magazine and assault weapons bans.


That reminds me, it time for me to lube my ammo with bacon grease.






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F joe biden





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Sentrius
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It's time for gun reform. It's time for waiting periods. It's time for background checks. It's time for registration. It's time for extended magazine and assault weapons bans.
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PRK








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