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Potential Wrs That we could target LATER.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 4/14/13 at 3:37 pm
Ryan Swope--STRENGTHS: Sturdy frame with long arms and good muscular definition. Exhibits strong initial burst off the snap. Flexible hips to sink, burst and separate across the field. Displays strong awareness and anticipation of zone windows, and exhibits suddenness to flip, sit and locate the ball. Plucks the ball routinely, then looks it in and secures it before turning upfield. Fearless over the middle, and looks to extend plays after the catch. Possesses quick, agile feet and has a knack for shaking coverage with jukes and stabs.
Shows strong awareness of mismatches with linebackers and safeties, and possesses the 2nd level acceleration to beat either one. Tracks the ball well vertically, and adjusts his body nicely to throws off his frame. Effective 2nd-level cut-blocker when asked to support the run or quick WR screens. Consistently gives good effort to the whistle. Does not shy away from contact after the catch and flashes some power on contact to drag a defender.
WEAKNESSES: Struggles to break down and redirect rapidly, particularly when asked to plant and burst out of a pivot on underneath routes. Could be more physical against press, as he doesn't always utilize his solid frame to create space like he could. Isn't a real "burner", and relies more on quickness and fakes to create separation vertically. Will sit down and wait for the throw at times rather than drive back to the ball. Doesn't possess a huge "catch radius" and isn't a guy you can necessarily just throw it up to and rely on to go get it.
COMPARES TO: Brandon Stokley, WR, Denver Broncos - I look at Swope as a bigger, more athletic version of the veteran Stokely, but similar in terms of route-running efficiency, smarts, and craftiness in creating vertical separation. Although there are more athletic, explosive receivers in this year's group, few are more refined and ready to contribute than Swope, who probably falls somewhere between rounds 2 and 4, but is capable of putting up first-round numbers in the right offense. Has been designated by many as a pure "slot" target at the next level, but I see some tools that suggest he could be effective on the outside as well.-Stats-REC-72,YDS-913,TD-8
Aaron Mellete--Strengths: Solidly-built frame with good height and length for the position. Smooth body adjustments and looks flexible in his cuts, using his reach and movements to collect off-target throws. Uses his size well and knows how to box out defenders and utilize his frame. Natural hands-catcher with good focus to snatch grabs away from his body. Good toughness over the middle and competes for the ball in tight spaces. Good production over his career with at least 86 catches each of the last three seasons and 44 career touchdown receptions.
Weaknesses: Lacks elite speed and will struggle to consistently separate. Has more build-up speed and lacks natural burst to quickly change directions. Takes too long changing gears and isn't considered a dangerous threat after the catch. Room to improve his route running and needs refinement in his technique. Almost all of his production and experience has come against lower level of competition at the FCS level with mixed results against FBS-level talent.-Stats-Rec-97,Yards-1408,Tds-18
Da'Rick Rodgers--Strengths: Despite playing in the ultra-physical SEC, Rogers proved too strong for most teams to consider pressing. He's also versatile, showing the ability to line up outside, as well as in the slot. While it is easy to get excited about Rogers' size-speed potential, one of his greatest attributes is simply his toughness, as he absorbed several big collisions on games viewed and never dropped a pass due to a hit while at Tennessee. Rogers is a powerful runner who fights for additional yardage and has the agility and speed to run away from the pack for explosive plays.
Weaknesses: Generally a reliable pass catcher, but will occasionally look to juke the defender before securing the pass, resulting in an occasional bad drop. Until he cleans up the conception that he's a troublemaker, it may not matter how talented Rogers is, NFL teams will be too concerned to give him the first-round grade his talent deserves.-Stats-Rec-78,Yds-1207,Tds-11
Ace Sanders-LINK Extremely dangerous with the ball in his hands. Possesses excellent stop-start quickness and lateral agility to elude making him a nightmare to tackle in the open field. Explosive initial acceleration.
Excellent vision and feel for setting up his blocks. Patient, creative runner who is always a threat to go back against the grain. Good straight-line speed and shows a late burst to pull away. Shows the ability to pluck the ball from outside of his frame. Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and shows good hand-eye coordination and timing to make the diving grab.
Good toughness and concentration to handle slot responsibilities. Fights through arm tackles and is tough to tackle due to his naturally low center of gravity. Doesn't back down to the size and physicality over the middle. Good bloodlines; son of former NFL defensive back Tracy Sanders.
WEAKNESSES: Significantly undersized. More quick than fast and is a bit of a one-trick pony as an interior receiver. Made most of his plays at South Carolina on quick screens, drag routes and occasional deep balls and is therefore lacking a bit in his route progression. Doesn't switch the ball to his outside arm consistently and will allow the ball to swing too freely.
COMPARES TO: Roscoe Parrish, WR/RS, Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Like the long-time Buffalo Bill, Sanders is more dangerous as a returner than a receiver at this point in his career. His secure hands and toughness, however, could make him a dangerous target out of the slot in the right offense. Stats-Rec-45,Yds-547,Tds-9
- Wilson enters his junior season as the most highly regarded pro prospect from Washington State since cornerback Marcus Trufant was selected No. 11 overall by the Seattle Seahawks in 2003.
Wilson's numbers not only stood out against former Cougars, his 55 catches led all NCAA freshman receivers in 2010. Despite a revolving door at quarterback last year, Wilson was fantastic in 2011, shattering school records with 82 grabs for 1,388 yards and ranking second in WSU history with 12 touchdown catches.
Needless to say, there is a great deal of anticipation as to what Wilson could accomplish as the focal point in Mike Leach's high-octane passing attack. An All-American season or perhaps even a shot at the Biletnikof Award certainly seems possible, as does a potentially high draft pick whenever Wilson should elect to make himself eligible to the NFL.
Analysis
Though not a classic burner, the lean and athletic Wilson is a natural pass-catcher with impressive body control and deceptive speed.
Wilson needs to continue to get bigger and stronger (on tape he looks closer to 175), make his route-running a bit more precise and try to develop a bit more explosiveness. He's a naturally long-strider who is at his best running under Jeff Tuel's deep balls or using his long arms and body control to beat defenders in jump-ball situations.-Rec-52,Yds-815,Tds-5
Shows strong awareness of mismatches with linebackers and safeties, and possesses the 2nd level acceleration to beat either one. Tracks the ball well vertically, and adjusts his body nicely to throws off his frame. Effective 2nd-level cut-blocker when asked to support the run or quick WR screens. Consistently gives good effort to the whistle. Does not shy away from contact after the catch and flashes some power on contact to drag a defender.
WEAKNESSES: Struggles to break down and redirect rapidly, particularly when asked to plant and burst out of a pivot on underneath routes. Could be more physical against press, as he doesn't always utilize his solid frame to create space like he could. Isn't a real "burner", and relies more on quickness and fakes to create separation vertically. Will sit down and wait for the throw at times rather than drive back to the ball. Doesn't possess a huge "catch radius" and isn't a guy you can necessarily just throw it up to and rely on to go get it.
COMPARES TO: Brandon Stokley, WR, Denver Broncos - I look at Swope as a bigger, more athletic version of the veteran Stokely, but similar in terms of route-running efficiency, smarts, and craftiness in creating vertical separation. Although there are more athletic, explosive receivers in this year's group, few are more refined and ready to contribute than Swope, who probably falls somewhere between rounds 2 and 4, but is capable of putting up first-round numbers in the right offense. Has been designated by many as a pure "slot" target at the next level, but I see some tools that suggest he could be effective on the outside as well.-Stats-REC-72,YDS-913,TD-8
Aaron Mellete--Strengths: Solidly-built frame with good height and length for the position. Smooth body adjustments and looks flexible in his cuts, using his reach and movements to collect off-target throws. Uses his size well and knows how to box out defenders and utilize his frame. Natural hands-catcher with good focus to snatch grabs away from his body. Good toughness over the middle and competes for the ball in tight spaces. Good production over his career with at least 86 catches each of the last three seasons and 44 career touchdown receptions.
Weaknesses: Lacks elite speed and will struggle to consistently separate. Has more build-up speed and lacks natural burst to quickly change directions. Takes too long changing gears and isn't considered a dangerous threat after the catch. Room to improve his route running and needs refinement in his technique. Almost all of his production and experience has come against lower level of competition at the FCS level with mixed results against FBS-level talent.-Stats-Rec-97,Yards-1408,Tds-18
Da'Rick Rodgers--Strengths: Despite playing in the ultra-physical SEC, Rogers proved too strong for most teams to consider pressing. He's also versatile, showing the ability to line up outside, as well as in the slot. While it is easy to get excited about Rogers' size-speed potential, one of his greatest attributes is simply his toughness, as he absorbed several big collisions on games viewed and never dropped a pass due to a hit while at Tennessee. Rogers is a powerful runner who fights for additional yardage and has the agility and speed to run away from the pack for explosive plays.
Weaknesses: Generally a reliable pass catcher, but will occasionally look to juke the defender before securing the pass, resulting in an occasional bad drop. Until he cleans up the conception that he's a troublemaker, it may not matter how talented Rogers is, NFL teams will be too concerned to give him the first-round grade his talent deserves.-Stats-Rec-78,Yds-1207,Tds-11
Ace Sanders-LINK Extremely dangerous with the ball in his hands. Possesses excellent stop-start quickness and lateral agility to elude making him a nightmare to tackle in the open field. Explosive initial acceleration.
Excellent vision and feel for setting up his blocks. Patient, creative runner who is always a threat to go back against the grain. Good straight-line speed and shows a late burst to pull away. Shows the ability to pluck the ball from outside of his frame. Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and shows good hand-eye coordination and timing to make the diving grab.
Good toughness and concentration to handle slot responsibilities. Fights through arm tackles and is tough to tackle due to his naturally low center of gravity. Doesn't back down to the size and physicality over the middle. Good bloodlines; son of former NFL defensive back Tracy Sanders.
WEAKNESSES: Significantly undersized. More quick than fast and is a bit of a one-trick pony as an interior receiver. Made most of his plays at South Carolina on quick screens, drag routes and occasional deep balls and is therefore lacking a bit in his route progression. Doesn't switch the ball to his outside arm consistently and will allow the ball to swing too freely.
COMPARES TO: Roscoe Parrish, WR/RS, Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Like the long-time Buffalo Bill, Sanders is more dangerous as a returner than a receiver at this point in his career. His secure hands and toughness, however, could make him a dangerous target out of the slot in the right offense. Stats-Rec-45,Yds-547,Tds-9
- Wilson enters his junior season as the most highly regarded pro prospect from Washington State since cornerback Marcus Trufant was selected No. 11 overall by the Seattle Seahawks in 2003.
Wilson's numbers not only stood out against former Cougars, his 55 catches led all NCAA freshman receivers in 2010. Despite a revolving door at quarterback last year, Wilson was fantastic in 2011, shattering school records with 82 grabs for 1,388 yards and ranking second in WSU history with 12 touchdown catches.
Needless to say, there is a great deal of anticipation as to what Wilson could accomplish as the focal point in Mike Leach's high-octane passing attack. An All-American season or perhaps even a shot at the Biletnikof Award certainly seems possible, as does a potentially high draft pick whenever Wilson should elect to make himself eligible to the NFL.
Analysis
Though not a classic burner, the lean and athletic Wilson is a natural pass-catcher with impressive body control and deceptive speed.
Wilson needs to continue to get bigger and stronger (on tape he looks closer to 175), make his route-running a bit more precise and try to develop a bit more explosiveness. He's a naturally long-strider who is at his best running under Jeff Tuel's deep balls or using his long arms and body control to beat defenders in jump-ball situations.-Rec-52,Yds-815,Tds-5
This post was edited on 4/14/13 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 4/14/13 at 3:57 pm to jamal
I guess I'm supposed to know these peoples names based on their program pictures.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 4:19 pm to jamal
I don't think Swope is going to go that late(3-4 IMO).
Don't think Ace Sanders is anything more than a KR, might go undrafted.
I'd be surprised if we touched Wilson or Da'Rick with their issues.
Don't think Ace Sanders is anything more than a KR, might go undrafted.
I'd be surprised if we touched Wilson or Da'Rick with their issues.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 4:19 pm to jamal
Weak QB play this year by TCU kept this guy below radar. Coming out early but will have his degree.
Josh Boyce TCU
5'11" 206 40 time: 4.38s
Games Played: 40
Receptions: 161
Yards: 2,535
Yds/Catch: 15.75
TDs: 22
Strengths
Solid overall build with a muscular upper body and strong legs. Lines up outside and in the slot. Displays very good hands. Excellent first three steps off the line to challenge corners, shakes them off the line and has enough speed to get a step down the field. Stems every route in the tree with foot quickness that college corners can't handle, does not have to slow down significantly to make a cut. Tracks the ball well over either shoulder, and shows a good job of high pointing the football in contested situations. Creates space downfield with an arm extension. Tough to bring down after the catch because of his low center of gravity and strength. Aggressive run blocker with the strength to negate his man and stick with the block. Willing to attack safeties stepping up inside if uncovered.
Weaknesses
Might be limited to purely playing the slot. Does not bring some difficult catches extended away from his frame that top prospects are expected to snare with their hands. Some college corners could close on him in the open field. Will fall off run blocks instead of sustaining, allowing his man to come off and make a play at times.
NFL Comparison: Devery Henderson
Bottom Line
Boyce's average height and maxed-out frame won't wow scouts, but the quickness and strength that made him a playmaker at the college level makes him a potentially dangerous weapon in the slot, with the possibility of being able to line up on the outside.
**This was written before he started blowing everyone away at the combine.**
Measurements/Combine numbers here.
Complete College Stats at NCAA.com
Video Highlights
ETA:
This guy, depending on how things shake out could drop to the 4th round... but honestly I see him going in the 3rd. Just thought I'd post a potential Devery Henderson replacement.
Josh Boyce TCU
5'11" 206 40 time: 4.38s
Games Played: 40
Receptions: 161
Yards: 2,535
Yds/Catch: 15.75
TDs: 22
Strengths
Solid overall build with a muscular upper body and strong legs. Lines up outside and in the slot. Displays very good hands. Excellent first three steps off the line to challenge corners, shakes them off the line and has enough speed to get a step down the field. Stems every route in the tree with foot quickness that college corners can't handle, does not have to slow down significantly to make a cut. Tracks the ball well over either shoulder, and shows a good job of high pointing the football in contested situations. Creates space downfield with an arm extension. Tough to bring down after the catch because of his low center of gravity and strength. Aggressive run blocker with the strength to negate his man and stick with the block. Willing to attack safeties stepping up inside if uncovered.
Weaknesses
Might be limited to purely playing the slot. Does not bring some difficult catches extended away from his frame that top prospects are expected to snare with their hands. Some college corners could close on him in the open field. Will fall off run blocks instead of sustaining, allowing his man to come off and make a play at times.
NFL Comparison: Devery Henderson
Bottom Line
Boyce's average height and maxed-out frame won't wow scouts, but the quickness and strength that made him a playmaker at the college level makes him a potentially dangerous weapon in the slot, with the possibility of being able to line up on the outside.
**This was written before he started blowing everyone away at the combine.**
Measurements/Combine numbers here.
Complete College Stats at NCAA.com
Video Highlights
ETA:
This guy, depending on how things shake out could drop to the 4th round... but honestly I see him going in the 3rd. Just thought I'd post a potential Devery Henderson replacement.
This post was edited on 4/14/13 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 4/14/13 at 4:54 pm to jamal
Shocking that they compared Swope to Stokley
Posted on 4/14/13 at 5:15 pm to Melvin
Beat me to it
It never fricking fails
It never fricking fails
Posted on 4/14/13 at 6:26 pm to jamal
Hoping we bring in this guy.
Mark Harrison, Rutgers, 6'-3" 231 lbs, 4.37-40, 38 1/2"-vertical.
44-rec 583-yards 6-tds.
Mark Harrison, Rutgers, 6'-3" 231 lbs, 4.37-40, 38 1/2"-vertical.
44-rec 583-yards 6-tds.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 7:01 pm to St Augustine
quote:
Beat me to it It never fricking fails
Posted on 4/14/13 at 9:03 pm to Melvin
I like Marcus Davis from VT in the 5th possibly, Maybe 4th depending who we take 1st n 3rd rd.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 9:10 pm to seibert23
give me Brandon Kaufman late (6'4 217 ran a 4.68) from Eastern Washington
ETA: here is his stats from this year
ETA: here is his stats from this year
quote:
93 receptions for 1,850 yards and 16 touchdowns.
This post was edited on 4/14/13 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 4/14/13 at 9:27 pm to fightingtigers98
Being white, and therefor an ambassador for my race, I have to say no to a white wide receiver. Just say no to Swope. 
This post was edited on 4/14/13 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 4/15/13 at 12:21 am to jamal
If Da'Rick isn't gone after the second round then every GM in the league would have lost their mind.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 12:27 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
quote:
If Da'Rick isn't gone after the second round then every GM in the league would have lost their mind.
I agree.
SEC!!!! SEC!!!!!!! SEC!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 4/15/13 at 12:55 am to LooseCannon22282
quote:
I agree.
SEC!!!! SEC!!!!!!! SEC!!!!!!!!!!
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Da'Rick has a great physical skill set. Does he have some character issues? Yes, but his ability on the field is far too good to let the bad outweigh the good.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:01 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
quote:
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I was agreeing with you.
quote:
Da'Rick has a great physical skill set. Does he have some character issues? Yes, but his ability on the field is far too good to let the bad outweigh the good.
I liked this answer better though.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:08 am to LooseCannon22282
quote:
I was agreeing with you.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:15 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
quote:
The "SEC!!!!" stuff made me think you were joking.
and fwiw, whoever the saints draft, I'll be okay with it. I might not agree with the pick but I'll accept it
Posted on 4/15/13 at 8:21 am to LooseCannon22282
for speed threat guys later I like-
Josh Boyce
Marquise Goodwin
more towards big body/target types-
Darick Rogers
Aaron Dobson
others draftable that I like-
Tavares King
Kenny Stills
Chris Harper
Corey Fuller
barring can't pass on value, I'm not expecting any WR until 4th Rd or later. Even later it'll prolly have to be a very strong value pick.
Josh Boyce
Marquise Goodwin
more towards big body/target types-
Darick Rogers
Aaron Dobson
others draftable that I like-
Tavares King
Kenny Stills
Chris Harper
Corey Fuller
barring can't pass on value, I'm not expecting any WR until 4th Rd or later. Even later it'll prolly have to be a very strong value pick.
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