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re: After giving Promet[h]eus a shot on cable

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Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:29 pm to
round 2
Posted by Jwodie
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:30 pm to
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i don't get why this would inspire such high expectations. i was never very impressed by the original movies



Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:30 pm to
Alien is awesome but it wouldn't give me high expectations for another ridley scott movie on the subject (even though this should have been removed from the franchise minus that it takes place in the same universe)

I actually think Aliens is better, though I enjoy ridley scott's camera work much more.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:35 pm to
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I actually think Aliens is better

I think it's the worst of the original trilogy. And that's not to bad mouth it at all...I loved it. But Alien is awesome and I'll always love 3 more than most.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:41 pm to
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I'm not insulting anyone, but i will never understand liking JC and hating (not disliking) HATING Prometheus.


What's not to understand?

1. It almost nothing to add to the universe. It made everything more complicated at the same time. There were so many better answers, Scott just avoided them because they were easy. He though "complexity" would come through "obscurity" and that's not always the best option.

2. It ruined the previous movies, honestly. Those wrong answers made everything else just blah.

3. The acting, outside of Elba and Rapace, was somewhat terrible

4. The baby? Come the f on. Just no.





It WAS brilliantly shot and presented. Great production values. It was a spectacle more than anything else. A vapid, inconsequential spectacle.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:41 pm to

I can get behind Alien > Aliens but in no reality will i say alien 3 is better than any of them
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:42 pm to
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3. The acting, outside of Elba and Rapace, was somewhat terrible
oops. you missed one
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:44 pm to
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The acting, outside of Elba and Rapace, was somewhat terrible


Michael Fassbender says hi

as for the rest, I acknowledge the problems with prometheus of which there are a handful (just so happens that one of them leads to like i said 50,000 questions), but it is still a solid movie. I'm not saying it's great, unless I'm only comparing it to sci fi films of the last 15-20 years. and hell yes it is better than john carter. John Carter, nothing was great about it. Prometheus had a few great things

the baby? I don't know what the frick the ooz is or how it functions or how it was meant to function so i have no fricking clue. witholding judgement on that one. ETA: though it should have been explained. That was the biggest misstep of the movie along with the role of vickers
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Posted by Jwodie
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:45 pm to
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It was a spectacle more than anything else. A vapid, inconsequential spectacle.


Well put. Can't disagree.
Posted by Jwodie
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:45 pm to
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the baby? I don't know what the frick the ooz is or how it functions or how it was meant to function so i have no fricking clue. witholding judgement on that one


Exactly. Yet another unanswered question produced by the film or at the very least a vital plot element that went entirely unexplained.
Posted by Jwodie
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:46 pm to
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Michael Fassbender says hi


Easily the best acting in the movie by far. He was very good as David.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:51 pm to
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Yet another unanswered question produced by the film or at the very least a vital plot element that went entirely unexplained.

i didn't mind it.

the characters didn't know. i didn't know. in retrospect, i like that i still don't know exactly
Posted by Jwodie
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:54 pm to
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i didn't mind it.

the characters didn't know. i didn't know. in retrospect, i like that i still don't know exactly





I appreciate your contrarianism. But it's bordering on trolling.

The goo was arguable the most important plot device yet the audience has no idea WTF it does, why it affects people/things differently, etc.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:55 pm to
thats exactly how i felt at the time, and still how i feel about the engineers

We're projecting ourselves into the crew's place so I don't want to know everything while they know nothing, but i think explaining the ooz was necessary for us to fully understand what the frick was going on and it would've added more tension to when that guy is reanimated and fine arse noomi rapace is running around looking all sexy i want to bang her and play with her titties, wha. Yeah, i liked prometheus
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:56 pm to
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the baby? I don't know what the frick the ooz is or how it functions or how it was meant to function so i have no fricking clue. witholding judgement on that one


EXACTLY

So:

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I'm not insulting anyone, but i will never understand liking JC and hating (not disliking) HATING Prometheus.


Science Fiction is based on a consistent and clear universe. If it isn't clear what the rules are, that's fantasy. You just admitted that the "goo" is about as inconsistent as possible. That doesn't bode well to support a clear "science fiction" world.
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 2:57 pm
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:56 pm to
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I appreciate your contrarianism. But it's bordering on trolling. The goo was arguable the most important plot device yet the audience has no idea WTF it does, why it affects people/things differently, etc.
patience, grasshopper

your presumption is noted and discarded. we'll get another movie. consider this a long commercial break. you may visit the restroom or get water if you need to.
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Jwodie
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:58 pm to
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and fine arse noomi rapace is running around looking all sexy i want to bang her and play with her titties, wha.




I think we can all agree with this.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:58 pm to
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Science Fiction is based on a consistent and clear universe. If it isn't clear what the rules are, that's fantasy. You just admitted that the "goo" is about as inconsistent as possible. That doesn't bode well to support a clear "science fiction" world.


what? this isn't fricking star trek. Actually a deleted scene from the original alien kind of goes into this territory of confusing people. it's a problem, but it doesn't destroy the universe.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:58 pm to
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Science Fiction is based on a consistent and clear universe. If it isn't clear what the rules are, that's fantasy. You just admitted that the "goo" is about as inconsistent as possible. That doesn't bode well to support a clear "science fiction" world.

i can almost hear you sucking the entertainment value out of this movie
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 3:01 pm to
i like my boring science fiction as much as the next guy. seriously i do, but I'm still going to love blade runner, empire, aliens. They don't get into the science of ANYTHING. well except how the aliens reproduce.
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