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CocoLoco
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space

He manages to crunch numbers and get the team under the cap every year, while keeping a competitive squad out there. I'd say he is good at what he does.


Chad504boy
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
At least we are competing for titles while maximizing the opportunity.


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eyeran
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
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He manages to crunch numbers and get the team under the cap every year, while keeping a competitive squad out there. I'd say he is good at what he does.

If only defense didn't matter...


CocoLoco
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
We won with mediocre defenses.

The Saints have won a shitload of games over the years. Of course defense matters, and that is always addressed. The fact that most of the additions don't pan out has nothing to do with Loomis


Lester Earl
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
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The fact that most of the additions don't pan out has nothing to do with Loomis


Wut


goatmilker
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
Joined at the hip?


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CocoLoco
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
Loomis is a numbers guy, not a talent evaluator.


Mugen
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
Why do we want to get rid of Greer?


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eyeran
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
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We won with mediocre defenses.
A mediocre defense would be nice right about now.

Thats an extremely shitty standard set under Loomis.
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The Saints have won a shitload of games over the years. Of course defense matters, and that is always addressed. The fact that most of the additions don't pan out has nothing to do with Loomis
Thats an awesome spot to be in if you're Loomis


Lester Earl
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
Lol ok


eyeran
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
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Loomis is a numbers guy, not a talent evaluator.
He is.

Which is why it would be nice if he was actually good with the numbers.

Despite what some people seem to think, there are plenty of successful teams that aren't in cap hell every offseason, like us.


CocoLoco
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
So Loomis is deciding who fits the schemes, he's telling Sean... "Man that guy would be great in the short passing game, and he's an outstanding blocker?" No,
They tell him who they want, and his job is to sign them to contracts.


LOl funny stuff LOLOlOLLoLoLOllLllz




goatmilker
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
A mediocre defense would be nice right about now.

Thats the truth.

Thats an extremely shitty standard set under Loomis.

Not a standard unless you have the Saints plans that state such, otherwise, just a outcome.

Thats an awesome spot to be in if you're Loomis

Yes it is I think. GM of the year. Well paid . Working in the NBA. NFL champinship. Coach is back and the prospect for sucsess looking good for the future.

I would say a very awesome spot indeed.


Lester Earl
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
Then he should be fired immediately. Worthless piece of shite.


CocoLoco
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
We are in cap hell because we have a Hall of Fame quarterback. The Packers will be there shortly. The Ravens won a Superbowl and had to pay Flacco. The Falcons will have to sign Ryan to a high long term deal.


You do what you can. Sign a group of high name defensive guys, or have one of the best players, at the most important position, on your team. The offense certainly isn't filled with superstars outside of Brees and Graham, yet they put together arguably the greatest offensive season of all time in 2011. Yet, the defense is filled with 1st round picks and have been mediocre to awful(2012), outside of a few guys.

With success came higher contracts. Part of the business.


eyeran
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
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Not a standard unless you have the Saints plans that state such, otherwise, just a outcome.


You can argue semantics. The fact is Loomis gets paid to control the money and spends it like its going to rot, while putting out absolutely embarrassing defenses for most of the past decade.


CocoLoco
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
Outside of last season, the Saints have had a mediocre defense, which is all they need. What happened with those mediocre defenses (although they were top 10 in 2010); seasons of 13-3, 11-5, and 13-3. I'd say compared to the shite show this team was in the past, the guys here, including Loomis, have done a hell of a job. Payton is back, and so is this team. I'll take 10+ wins any day. But then again, I'm not some spoiled frick on the rant.


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goatmilker
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
Agree.
Except for...
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while putting out absolutely embarrassing defenses for most of the past decade.


See Haslett and Payton.

Loomis does suck it seems as a head coach/def co. I'll give ya


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Lester Earl
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
We are in cap hell because we draft horribly on the defensive side.

We have to bring in 3-5 FA every year to try and patch holes. Rather than draft talented players and have them on their rookie deals.

So our GM doesn't evaluate talent? Why is he our GM again? How come just about every GM can get away with both duties?

If you draft worth a damn, the money part becomes much easier.


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Patrick O Rly
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re: Saints are 2nd to worst in 2014 cap space
Shut up you dumb piece of shite. Nobody cares about your tired arse argument.


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