SaintLSUnAtl New Orleans Saints Fan THE REAL MJ Member since Jan 2007 20320 posts
re: What do you do in a draft scenario like this? (Posted on 4/3/13 at 10:59 am to blueslover)
I'm basing it off like 10 years of results
I forgot we traded up for sed Ellis. When you trade up it should be for a difference maker IMO. Not just a solid starter. They've made the wrong choice when trading up nearly every time. That tells me its the front office and coaches making bad decisions when they trade up.
Suntiger USA Fan BR or somewhere else Member since Feb 2007 21113 posts
re: What do you do in a draft scenario like this? (Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:14 am to Tiger Voodoo)
quote: The only player I truly DO NOT want us to draft at 15 is Mingo.
quote: he's a project, no technique and lightweight
Ezekiel Ansah BYU 6-5 271 Barkevious Mingo LSU 6-4 241 Dion Jordan Oregon 6-6 248 DeMarcus Ware Troy 6-4 251 Terrell Suggs ASU 6-4 257 Aldon Smith Mizzou 6-4 263 Cliff Avril Purdue 6-3 252 Michael Johnson GT 6-7 266 Kamerion Wimbley FSU 6-4 248 Bruce Irvin 6-3 245
He has speed, and that can't be coached. He's projected as a top pick as an OLB for a reason. There haven't been many can't miss bona fide pass rusher. Most guys have question marks and go a little further down.
Bruce Irvin 15th pick J.J. Watt 11th pick Demarcus Ware 11th pick Elvis Dumervil 126th pick (passed on because of size) Aldon Smith 7th pick Dwight Freeny 11th pick Clay Matthews 26th pick John Abraham 13th pick
As for technique, he's been a DE in a 4-3 and has mainly used his speed. A lot of other guys did that in college too. Leonard Little, Julius Peppers and Dwight Freeny. Mingo has a rip. Freeny had his spin. Peppers jumped a lot. Little was pure speed. They all did well in the NFL.
As for production, he did just as well as the other guys people want.
Dion Jordan 24 starts (as best I can tell) 121 tackles 29 tackles for loss 14.5 sacks 4 forced fumbles
goatmilker New Orleans Saints Fan 2014 drunkin Bobby award winner! Member since Feb 2009 16110 posts
re: What do you do in a draft scenario like this? (Posted on 4/3/13 at 12:28 pm to Suntiger)
I don't get the Mingo hate. "he gets washed out playing against the run" they say. Hell yeah he did. Put a safety at LB and he will have trouble vs the run too. Mingo was asked to play end at a OLB size and weight. Gonna be a lot of egg on face when this is all played out for one side or the other I have confidence that the Saints staff has watched more tape and have Mingo slotted correctly.