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The Ultimate Wolf in Sheep's Clothing 1911 Discussion

Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Judge Smails
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:08 pm
So while discussing night sight options for my Colt today my gunsmith started a interesting conversation with me. What would be the ultimate "wolf in sheep's clothing" 1911? What I mean is the best of the best in aftermarket parts on the plainest possible frame? We discussed best bang for the buck and came up with a SR 1911 or Remington base model 1911. What say the OB?
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:14 pm to
It's the Ruger SR1911 no question. The base model Remington comes with no features other than GI basics.
Posted by Judge Smails
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:16 pm to
Right. But Im talking about talking the plainest looking 1911 made and then gutting it to put top end components in it. Imagine a Nascar that looks like its stock little brother. You following me?
Posted by PvilleP
Prairieville
Member since Apr 2011
1950 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:16 pm to
It would have to start with a Para or a Rock Island frame
No skeletonized trigger or hammer...
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61759 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:18 pm to
Gotcha, I'll say the STI Spartan
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7590 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:18 pm to
You're talking about which plain Jane, factory 1911 to dress up w/ accessories, correct? Depends on how much one wants to spend for the base model. If the goal is to have a completed model w/ as little spent on it as possible, I think one would be hard pressed to beat using a RIA or American Classic for the base gun. If one doensn't mind spending a little more for the base gun, I'd suggest the SA Mil Spec in addition to your Ruger 1911. The Remington 1911 hasn't excited me much to this point.
Posted by Judge Smails
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:19 pm to
This is what I'm talking about. At a glance it's a bargain basement rig. Then you shoot it and it handles like a high end custom job.
Posted by Springfield XD
Member since Feb 2013
1782 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:19 pm to
RRA with a match barrel and aftermarket trigger group. Add a good set of sights if you can.
Posted by homesicktiger
High altitude hell
Member since Oct 2004
1624 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:24 pm to
That's sort of what I'm working on ... on a 20 yr plan unfortunately. I bought a cheap 1991A1 at a gun show in the early 90's. My intent was a cheap frame/slide into which I could stuff everything out of the Wilson catalog. Haven't even started the stuffing part though.
This post was edited on 4/1/13 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5571 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:25 pm to
I'm not talking about the cheapest canvas to start with per se. I'm fairly certain that almost all agree that the best bang for your buck out of the box 1911 (for the dough) is the Ruger. What I'm interested in doing is taking a vanilla 1911 and making it a great shooter by upgrading the stock component parts while keeping the "visual integrity" of a stock 1911.
Posted by Big Data
Scotch Fan
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:29 pm to
A quick search on Bud's releaved this beauty.

Girsan MC1911-G2:
Posted by 4X4DEMON
NWLA
Member since Dec 2007
11957 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:31 pm to
What you want is a sleeper 1911, looks like a pinto on the outside runs like an indy car on the inside. The bottom barrel 1911's would suffice for a canvas. The RIA or Girsan would be my choice.
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5571 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:32 pm to
The beauty is in its simplicity. This is what I'm talking about. Any 1911 snob would look down his nose at that. I'm going to do this project. Anybody can go out and buy a $1500 shooter.
Posted by Judge Smails
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Member since Mar 2008
5571 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:33 pm to
My only criteria is that it's relatively plain looking and has a good frame to work with. What are some options?
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5571 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

a sleeper 1911


Exactly
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

STI Spartan



People customize the crap out of those things.

Here it is stock:

Here it is decked out for competition:
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7590 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

I'm fairly certain that almost all agree that the best bang for your buck out of the box 1911 (for the dough) is the Ruger.

I don't know about that. Just depends who one talks/listens to. One can find a lot of support on a number of other forums for guns other than the Ruger. I guess part of that depends on how much one values the finish of the gun.

quote:

What I'm interested in doing is taking a vanilla 1911 and making it a great shooter by upgrading the stock component parts while keeping the "visual integrity" of a stock 1911.
I think KR's nomination of the STI Spartan is a good one, as well.
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5571 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:48 pm to
It appears we're getting close to a consensus here gents.... and in one page no less!
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5571 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:51 pm to
Doc the only thing about the STI is the skeletonized trigger and forward frame serrations - did I just butcher the second part?
Posted by PvilleP
Prairieville
Member since Apr 2011
1950 posts
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:56 pm to
I'd have to sand a few spots down to bare metal and let them get a light surface rust on them.
Maybe the normal holster wear spots on the slide.
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