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Not a lot of SEC-country talent in the Final Four
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:08 am
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:08 am
I realize most of the SEC-country talent probably goes to school closer to home, but I am surprised at how few players in the Final Four are from the Deep South. Maybe I shouldn't be. The rosters:
Louisville
2 Russ Smith
6-0 165 G JR Brooklyn, N.Y. (Archbishop Molloy/South Kent)
3 Peyton Siva
6-0 185 G SR Seattle, Wash. (Franklin)
5 Kevin Ware
6-2 175 G SO Bronx, N.Y. (Rockdale County (Ga.))
10 Gorgui Dieng
6-11 245 C JR Kebemer, Senegal (Covenant/Huntington Prep)
11 Luke Hancock
6-6 200 F JR Roanoke, Va. (George Mason)
12 Mangok Mathiang
6-10 200 C FR Melbourne, Australia (IMG Academy (Fla.))
14 Logan Baumann
6-0 165 G FR Hartford, Ky. (Ohio County)
15 Tim Henderson
6-2 195 G JR Louisville, Ky. (Christian Academy)
20 Wayne Blackshear
6-5 230 G/F SO Chicago, Ill. (Morgan Park)
21 Chane Behanan
6-6 250 F SO Cincinnati, Ohio (Bowling Green)
22 Jordan Bond
6-0 165 G FR Louisville, Ky. (duPont Manual)
24 Montrezl Harrell
6-8 235 F FR Tarboro, N.C. (Hargrave Military Academy)
25 Zach Price
6-10 250 C SO Cleveland, Ohio (Jeffersontown)
32 Michael Baffour
6-2 170 G JR Lexington, Ky. (Bryan Station)
33 Mike Marra
6-5 215 G SR Smithfield, R.I. (Northfield Mt. Hermon School)
44 Stephan Van Treese
6-9 245 F SR Indianapolis, Ind. (Lawrence North)
Michigan
1 Glenn Robinson III 6-6 210 Forward FR St. John, Ind. (Lake Central)
2 Spike Albrecht 5-11 170 Guard FR Crown Point, Ind. (Northfield Mount Hermon Prep [Mass.])
3 Trey Burke 6-0 190 Guard SO Columbus, Ohio (Northland)
4 Mitch McGary 6-10 250 Forward FR Chesterton, Ind. (Brewster Academy [N.H.])
5 Eso Akunne 6-2 225 Guard SR Ann Arbor, Mich. (Gabriel Richard)
10 Tim Hardaway Jr. 6-6 205 Guard JR Miami, Fla. (Palmetto Senior)
11 Nik Stauskas 6-6 190 Guard FR Mississauga, Ontario, Canada (St. Mark's School [Mass.])
13 Matt Vogrich 6-4 200 Guard SR Lake Forest, Ill. (Lake Forest)
15 Jon Horford 6-10 250 Forward RS SO Grand Ledge, Mich. (Grand Ledge)
20 Josh Bartelstein 6-3 210 Guard SR Highland Park, Ill. (Phillips Exeter Academy [N.H.])
22 Blake McLimans 6-10 240 Forward SR Hamburg, N.Y. (Worcester Academy [Mass.])
23 Caris LeVert 6-5 170 Guard FR Pickerington, Ohio (Central)
32 Corey Person 6-3 210 Guard GS Kalamazoo, Mich. (Central)
44 Max Bielfeldt 6-7 245 Forward RS FR Peoria, Ill. (Notre Dame)
52 Jordan Morgan 6-8 250 Forward RS JR Detroit, Mich. (University of Detroit Jesuit)
Wichita State
2 Armstead, Malcolm G 6-0 205 Sr. Florence, Ala. (Chipola JC) (Central Park Prep HS)
31 Baker, Ron G 6-3 218 RFr. Scott City, Kan. (Scott City HS)
33 Bush, Zach F 6-6 175 Fr. Wichita, Kan. (Goddard Eisenhower HS)
20 Coleby, Kadeem C 6-9 251 Sr. Nassau, Bahamas (Louisiana-Lafayette) (Christian Life Center Academy)
32 Cotton, Tekele G 6-2 202 So. Marietta, Ga. (Whitefield Academy)
11 Early, Cleanthony F 6-8 215 Jr. Middletown, N.Y. (Sullivan JC)
1 Green, Derail F 6-7 199 Fr. Houston, Texas (Klein Forest HS)
22 Hall, Carl F 6-8 238 Sr. Cochran, Ga. (NW Florida St.)
0 Lufile, Chadrack F 6-9 251 Jr. Burlington, Ontario, Canada (Coffeyville CC)
21 Orukpe, Ehimen C 7-0 250 Sr. Lagos, Nigeria, (Three Rivers [Mo.])
23 Van Vleet, Fred G 5-11 190 Fr. Rockford, Ill. (Auburn HS)
3 Wessel, Evan G 6-5 201 So. Wichita, Kan. (Heights HS)
50 White, Jake F 6-8 232 So. Chaska, Minn. (Chaska HS)
15 Wiggins, Nick G 6-6 187 Jr. Toronto, Canada (Wabash Valley [Ill.] College) (Godby HS/Tallahassee, Fla.)
5 Williams, Demetric G 6-2 178 Sr. Las Vegas, Nev. (Cheyenne HS)
Syracuse
0 Michael Gbinije F 6-7 200 So. Richmond, Va. / Benedictine College Prep
1 Michael Carter-Williams G 6-6 185 So. Hamilton, Mass. / St. Andrews School, R.I.
3 Jerami Grant F 6-8 203 Fr. Hyattsville, Md. / DeMatha Catholic
4 Nolan Hart G 5-10 152 Jr. Albany, N.Y. / Albany Academy
5 C.J. Fair F 6-8 215 Jr. Baltimore, Md. / Baltimore City College H.S. / Brewster Academy
10 Trevor Cooney G 6-4 195 So. Wilmington, Del. / Sanford School
12 Baye Moussa Keita C 6-10 215 Jr. Saint Louis, Senegal / Oak Hill Academy
13 Griffin Hoffmann G 6-1 178 Sr. New York, N.Y. / York Prep
14 Matt Lyde-Cajuste F 6-5 215 Sr. Mt. Vernon, N.Y. / Iona Prep
20 Brandon Triche G 6-4 210 Sr. Jamesville, N.Y. / Jamesville-DeWitt
21 Noel Jones F 6-6 230 Jr. Halifax, N.S. / Halifax Grammer School
23 Russ DeRemer G 6-5 203 Jr. Wrentham, Mass. / Xaverian Brothers/St. Andrew's/Worcester Academy
25 Rakeem Christmas F 6-9 242 So. Philadelphia, Pa. / Academy of the New Church
32 DaJuan Coleman F 6-9 288 Fr. Jamesville, N.Y. / Jamesville-DeWitt
33 Albert Nassar F 6-6 195 So. Stuart, Fla. / South Fork
43 James Southerland F 6-8 215 Sr. Bayside, N.Y. / Cardozo/Notre Dame Prep (Mass.)
Thoughts?
Louisville
2 Russ Smith
6-0 165 G JR Brooklyn, N.Y. (Archbishop Molloy/South Kent)
3 Peyton Siva
6-0 185 G SR Seattle, Wash. (Franklin)
5 Kevin Ware
6-2 175 G SO Bronx, N.Y. (Rockdale County (Ga.))
10 Gorgui Dieng
6-11 245 C JR Kebemer, Senegal (Covenant/Huntington Prep)
11 Luke Hancock
6-6 200 F JR Roanoke, Va. (George Mason)
12 Mangok Mathiang
6-10 200 C FR Melbourne, Australia (IMG Academy (Fla.))
14 Logan Baumann
6-0 165 G FR Hartford, Ky. (Ohio County)
15 Tim Henderson
6-2 195 G JR Louisville, Ky. (Christian Academy)
20 Wayne Blackshear
6-5 230 G/F SO Chicago, Ill. (Morgan Park)
21 Chane Behanan
6-6 250 F SO Cincinnati, Ohio (Bowling Green)
22 Jordan Bond
6-0 165 G FR Louisville, Ky. (duPont Manual)
24 Montrezl Harrell
6-8 235 F FR Tarboro, N.C. (Hargrave Military Academy)
25 Zach Price
6-10 250 C SO Cleveland, Ohio (Jeffersontown)
32 Michael Baffour
6-2 170 G JR Lexington, Ky. (Bryan Station)
33 Mike Marra
6-5 215 G SR Smithfield, R.I. (Northfield Mt. Hermon School)
44 Stephan Van Treese
6-9 245 F SR Indianapolis, Ind. (Lawrence North)
Michigan
1 Glenn Robinson III 6-6 210 Forward FR St. John, Ind. (Lake Central)
2 Spike Albrecht 5-11 170 Guard FR Crown Point, Ind. (Northfield Mount Hermon Prep [Mass.])
3 Trey Burke 6-0 190 Guard SO Columbus, Ohio (Northland)
4 Mitch McGary 6-10 250 Forward FR Chesterton, Ind. (Brewster Academy [N.H.])
5 Eso Akunne 6-2 225 Guard SR Ann Arbor, Mich. (Gabriel Richard)
10 Tim Hardaway Jr. 6-6 205 Guard JR Miami, Fla. (Palmetto Senior)
11 Nik Stauskas 6-6 190 Guard FR Mississauga, Ontario, Canada (St. Mark's School [Mass.])
13 Matt Vogrich 6-4 200 Guard SR Lake Forest, Ill. (Lake Forest)
15 Jon Horford 6-10 250 Forward RS SO Grand Ledge, Mich. (Grand Ledge)
20 Josh Bartelstein 6-3 210 Guard SR Highland Park, Ill. (Phillips Exeter Academy [N.H.])
22 Blake McLimans 6-10 240 Forward SR Hamburg, N.Y. (Worcester Academy [Mass.])
23 Caris LeVert 6-5 170 Guard FR Pickerington, Ohio (Central)
32 Corey Person 6-3 210 Guard GS Kalamazoo, Mich. (Central)
44 Max Bielfeldt 6-7 245 Forward RS FR Peoria, Ill. (Notre Dame)
52 Jordan Morgan 6-8 250 Forward RS JR Detroit, Mich. (University of Detroit Jesuit)
Wichita State
2 Armstead, Malcolm G 6-0 205 Sr. Florence, Ala. (Chipola JC) (Central Park Prep HS)
31 Baker, Ron G 6-3 218 RFr. Scott City, Kan. (Scott City HS)
33 Bush, Zach F 6-6 175 Fr. Wichita, Kan. (Goddard Eisenhower HS)
20 Coleby, Kadeem C 6-9 251 Sr. Nassau, Bahamas (Louisiana-Lafayette) (Christian Life Center Academy)
32 Cotton, Tekele G 6-2 202 So. Marietta, Ga. (Whitefield Academy)
11 Early, Cleanthony F 6-8 215 Jr. Middletown, N.Y. (Sullivan JC)
1 Green, Derail F 6-7 199 Fr. Houston, Texas (Klein Forest HS)
22 Hall, Carl F 6-8 238 Sr. Cochran, Ga. (NW Florida St.)
0 Lufile, Chadrack F 6-9 251 Jr. Burlington, Ontario, Canada (Coffeyville CC)
21 Orukpe, Ehimen C 7-0 250 Sr. Lagos, Nigeria, (Three Rivers [Mo.])
23 Van Vleet, Fred G 5-11 190 Fr. Rockford, Ill. (Auburn HS)
3 Wessel, Evan G 6-5 201 So. Wichita, Kan. (Heights HS)
50 White, Jake F 6-8 232 So. Chaska, Minn. (Chaska HS)
15 Wiggins, Nick G 6-6 187 Jr. Toronto, Canada (Wabash Valley [Ill.] College) (Godby HS/Tallahassee, Fla.)
5 Williams, Demetric G 6-2 178 Sr. Las Vegas, Nev. (Cheyenne HS)
Syracuse
0 Michael Gbinije F 6-7 200 So. Richmond, Va. / Benedictine College Prep
1 Michael Carter-Williams G 6-6 185 So. Hamilton, Mass. / St. Andrews School, R.I.
3 Jerami Grant F 6-8 203 Fr. Hyattsville, Md. / DeMatha Catholic
4 Nolan Hart G 5-10 152 Jr. Albany, N.Y. / Albany Academy
5 C.J. Fair F 6-8 215 Jr. Baltimore, Md. / Baltimore City College H.S. / Brewster Academy
10 Trevor Cooney G 6-4 195 So. Wilmington, Del. / Sanford School
12 Baye Moussa Keita C 6-10 215 Jr. Saint Louis, Senegal / Oak Hill Academy
13 Griffin Hoffmann G 6-1 178 Sr. New York, N.Y. / York Prep
14 Matt Lyde-Cajuste F 6-5 215 Sr. Mt. Vernon, N.Y. / Iona Prep
20 Brandon Triche G 6-4 210 Sr. Jamesville, N.Y. / Jamesville-DeWitt
21 Noel Jones F 6-6 230 Jr. Halifax, N.S. / Halifax Grammer School
23 Russ DeRemer G 6-5 203 Jr. Wrentham, Mass. / Xaverian Brothers/St. Andrew's/Worcester Academy
25 Rakeem Christmas F 6-9 242 So. Philadelphia, Pa. / Academy of the New Church
32 DaJuan Coleman F 6-9 288 Fr. Jamesville, N.Y. / Jamesville-DeWitt
33 Albert Nassar F 6-6 195 So. Stuart, Fla. / South Fork
43 James Southerland F 6-8 215 Sr. Bayside, N.Y. / Cardozo/Notre Dame Prep (Mass.)
Thoughts?
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:11 am to baybeefeetz
The big-time athletes down south play football.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:12 am to baybeefeetz
OH MY GOSH! ARE YOU MEANING TO TELL ME THAT THE SOUTHEAST IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE IN THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU CAN FIND EXCEPTIONAL ATHLETES!!!!!!!!!!
NNNNNNNNOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NNNNNNNNOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:13 am to SabiDojo
yeah, because that's exactly what I was trying to say.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:16 am to baybeefeetz
What's so surprising about it. It's colder up north so they prefer to stay inside and play hoops all day instead of going outside and playing football or baseball 
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:16 am to baybeefeetz
quote:
am surprised at how few players in the Final Four are from the Deep South.
Its because they are all busy playing a mans sport, football.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:18 am to Indfanfromcol
You tell 'em, Bubba. *spits into cup*
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:18 am to baybeefeetz
Someone's never read the book "outliers".
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:19 am to xenythx
quote:
The big-time athletes down south play football.
There is plenty of basketball talent in most major cities in the South. It's just that not all of the talent is going to SEC schools.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:20 am to baybeefeetz
About 15% doesn't seem that low to me considering only one team in the final four is from SEC country.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:20 am to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
What's so surprising about it. It's colder up north so they prefer to stay inside and play hoops all day instead of going outside and playing football or baseball
Ding, ding, ding, ding!
Oh yeah, and we take our 6'5 forwards and turn them into first round draft pick defensive ends.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:21 am to baybeefeetz
quote:
20 Coleby, Kadeem C 6-9 251 Sr. Nassau, Bahamas (Louisiana-Lafayette) (Christian Life Center Academy)
ib4hendersonhands
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:22 am to WDE24
quote:
About 15% doesn't seem that low to me considering only one team in the final four is from SEC country.
Especially when you consider that the one school from SEC country has a national recruiting footprint and doesn't worry about staying local.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:23 am to baybeefeetz
This isn't anything new, players from the Deep South have always been super athletic but have no clue how to play basketball. The reason is there is so much focus on football and basketball is coached by an assistant football coach.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:23 am to Choupique19
quote:
Oh yeah, and we take our 6'5 forwards and turn them into first round draft pick defensive ends.
Got damn right
.Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:23 am to WDE24
quote:
About 15% doesn't seem that low to me considering only one team in the final four is from SEC country.
And (excluding TX & MO) the southern states account for about 15% of the nations population.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:23 am to ProjectP2294
Actually I think it is closer to 20%.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:24 am to Golfer
quote:
Someone's never read the book "outliers".
I have always wanted to read this book.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:40 am to DayBowBow
quote:
The reason is there is so much focus on football and basketball is coached by an assistant football coach.
Unless you play at a big HS that isn't that good at football, this is the painful truth.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 9:54 am to WarSlamEagle
No offense but I've always called it the SEC West affect. You see it all the time with Alabama, Mississippi St, LSU, you've got unreal athletes that are basically still learning basketball.
Eric Bledsoe was a good example for us. Probably the most athletic guy on the 2010 team and yet drove Kentucky fans crazy at the beginning of the year because of his decision making.
Eric Bledsoe was a good example for us. Probably the most athletic guy on the 2010 team and yet drove Kentucky fans crazy at the beginning of the year because of his decision making.
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