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Now the fact that gay activists do not intend "marriage" as an endpoint, but rather as a manipulative means-to-an-end is completely predictable,


Gee NC, if you keep this stuff up you will eventually expose the fraud.







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DawgfaninCa
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We should NOT be basing our laws on the guidelines of people who lived 2-4000 years ago thousands of miles away from here.


Words of wisdom about human nature should be the basis of our laws even if they were written 2-4000 years ago since human nature doesn't change over time.







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DawgfaninCa
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...religion has no place in the governing of our country.


Are you in favor of only allowing non religious amoral beliefs to govern our country?







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DawgfaninCa
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I do not have any "beliefs"...


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I don't have any faith of any sort.


Aren't you basing the way you conduct your life on your blind belief (faith) that there is no God?





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DawgfaninCa
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the freedom of press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.- The Constitution of the United States of America.


I've underlined and made bold the portion that you would remove since that portion explicitly allows people with religious beliefs to exercise their right to express their religious moral beliefs in an attempt to influence their legislators to pass laws based on those religious moral beliefs.








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DawgfaninCa
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Correct, we shouldn't be using religious views to make law or policy in the United States of America. You don't like gay marriage, don't participate.


Once again, I've underlined and made bold that portion of the first amendment that you would remove.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the freedom of press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.- The Constitution of the United States of America.









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thetempleowl
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re: What is the "conservative" obsession with gay marriage?


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Once again, I've underlined and made bold that portion of the first amendment that you would remove.


Allowing gays to get married is not forcing you into a gay marriage.

I think sometimes very simple people get confused about allowing them the freedom to exercise said religious beliefs and the pushing of their religious beliefs onto others.

So I am free to not marry a another guy because my religion says I shouldn't.

However this country does not wish for you to push your religious beliefs onto others.

In the Loving decision, interracial marriage was declared legal. It did not force people to marry outside their religion or force obtuse backward religions to marry interracial couples.

Do you see the difference?






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Revelator
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If anything, the attitude that you hold that there is not one chance in infinity that God exist is a mental illness.
From the dawn of man till now, the vast majority of man has believed in, trusted in or longed for a God of some sort. Even the agnostic, while he doesn't believe, doesn't discount the possibility that God exist.
Kings, Presidents, doctors, lawyers, scientist, chemist, astronauts, laymen, etc. have all believed and still believe in a God, but we are the delusional ones? And the very minute group that you find yourself in that thinks he has found out some rare truth that few can find thinks he is the rational one? The guardian of truth and one of the few sane minds that have somehow escaped the mental illness of belief?
I truly feel sorry for you and all that fall into your group. At best, your greatest dream for the afterlife is that you become worm meat. I feel sorry that you are so blinded by rage in God that you can't even entertain the possibility that he is out there, and instead choose to mock him and all those who seek him. May he have mercy on your soul.






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NC_Tigah
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Allowing gays to get married is not forcing you into a gay marriage.
We allow that now.

In Loving v Virgina, interracial marriage was illegal and resulted in Loving's arrest
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Do you see the difference?






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thetempleowl
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We allow that now.


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Some states do not allow gay marriage.

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In Loving v Virgina, interracial marriage was illegal and resulted in Loving's arrest


The supreme court ruling found that denying interracial marriage, even if based on a stupid religious belief, was not going to be allowed in the country.

It said that you can practice your own religion, but you can not force that belief on someone else.

Do you understand?






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NC_Tigah
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Some states do not allow gay marriage.
Every state in the United States allows Gay Marriage






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NC_Tigah
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Do you understand?
In Loving v Virgina, interracial marriage was illegal and resulted in Loving's ARREST!

Do you understand?






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DawgfaninCa
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However this country does not wish for you to push your religious beliefs onto others.


I just pointed out the portion of the First amendment that says religious people have the right to FREELY express their religious beliefs.

That means there are no circumstances where they can't express their religious beliefs including to their legislators in an attempt to get laws passed by those legislators.

If you think I am misinterpreting that portion of the First amendment then what do you think is the correct interpretation?







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DawgfaninCa
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The supreme court ruling found that denying interracial marriage, even if based on a stupid religious belief, was not going to be allowed in the country.

It said that you can practice your own religion, but you can not force that belief on someone else.


I've read the Loving decision many times and I never read that.

All it says is that everyone is free to choose someone of the opposite sex to marry regardless of their race.

Where does Loving even mention anything about religious beliefs?







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NC_Tigah
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re: What is the "conservative" obsession with gay marriage?


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Where does Loving even mention anything about religious beliefs?






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VOR
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DawgfaninCa


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I've read the Loving decision many times


And you guys have the unmitigated gall to say that proponents are obsessed with this shit?






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los angeles tiger
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re: What is the "conservative" obsession with gay marriage?


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In Loving v Virgina, interracial marriage was illegal and resulted in Loving's ARREST!

Do you understand?


No, Temple's development was arrested.






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DawgfaninCa
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And you guys have the unmitigated gall to say that proponents are obsessed with this shit?


We're not obsessed with this shite.

We're smart enough to do our homework so that when some fool bullshites that Loving can be used in support of same sex marriage we can straighten the twisted fool out.







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Patrick O Rly
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re: What is the "conservative" obsession with gay marriage?


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Are you in favor of only allowing non religious amoral beliefs to govern our country?



How about moral and amoral people governing themselves?






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DawgfaninCa
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How about moral and amoral people governing themselves?


Why would moral people want amoral people to govern themselves?







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