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Newbomb Turk
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You don't like gay marriage, don't participate.


This country HASN'T for 240 years.

Just like women had to get a Constitutional amendment to vote -- if you want to make your political agenda a Constitutional RIGHT, get a f*cking Constitutional amendment.

Or, follow the 10th Amendment and get it passed in a Constitutional manner in the state houses.

Ya know, like the Constitution mandates.






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heatom2
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Don't murder
Don't steal



Yes, because we need religion to tell us these things are wrong. How many people have been murdered in the name of religion?

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Don't covet your Neighbors wife or stuff


Theres a law against desiring your neighbors property or things?

We should NOT be basing our laws on the guidelines of people who lived 2-4000 years ago thousands of miles away from here.






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Revelator
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quote]Correct, we shouldn't be using religious views to make law or policy in the United States of America. You don't like gay marriage, don't participate
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Marriage between a man and a woman was and is practiced in every culture throughout history regardless of religion so to try and make this a religious issue only is disingenuous.



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heatom2
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to try and make this a religious issue only is disingenuous.



I'm not, I don't think it should be a religious issue at all, as religion has no place in the governing of our country.

However, in every discussion on this issue, the religious come out of the woodwork, as can be seen in this thread long before I entered it.

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Marriage between a man and a woman was and is practiced in every culture throughout history


Thats fine. I have no problem with a man and a woman getting married, I'm a man married to a woman.

But you can't use history alone as justification for policy or law. There are plenty of examples of accepted practices throughout history that are considered abhorrent today.






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NC_Tigah
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It places anti-Catholicism blatantly into American law.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the freedom of press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.- The Constitution of the United States of America.
Interesting dichotomy of silliness apparent.

Just out of curiosity, what do you think "an establishment of religion" means?






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NC_Tigah
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as religion has no place in the governing of our country
Again, just a painfully stupid statement.






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germandawg
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There are no conservatives concerned with the state prohibiting gay marriage. There are a bunch of Republicans who are opposed to it but they are no more conservatives than Barrack Obama is.

Why are so many right wingers opposed to gay marriage? For the same reasons they are against so many other things that have nothing at all to do with them, like your children not having to pray to their God in organized sessions in public schools. It is because they can't detach themselves from their own experience and have zero empathy with anything or anyone who is in the slightest bit different or makes them uncomfortable in the least. They are like children who won't eat something they do not like even though they have never seen it before and have no idea if they like it or not. They are scared, period. They willingly admit this when they claim to be "God fearing". Their child like ways are blatantly obvious when you consider the things they hold near and dear to their hearts, like God and Satan (only children and the religious believe in magic and bogey men). SO there is your answer, the rights opposition to gay marriage is just one more example of the psychosis that is religion. It has nothing at all to do with conservatism thought, no matter how badly the crazy bastards like to pretend otherwise....and make no mistake, religion is a mental illness.






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Newbomb Turk
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germandawg


You are one seriously f*cked-in-the-head individual.



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and make no mistake, liberalism is a mental illness.


FIFY!






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NC_Tigah
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There are no conservatives concerned with the state prohibiting gay marriage.
100% correct.
Apparently the only folks concerned with it are those misguided enough to believe government is "prohibiting gay marriage".






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germandawg
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You are one seriously f*cked-in-the-head individual.


No doubt, but I do not believe in fairy tales and haven't since I was 10 years old and was capable of thinking. My being so does not mean that Religion is not a gateway psychosis. It is by any definition.....






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Newbomb Turk
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but I do not believe in fairy tales and haven't since I was 10 years old and was capable of thinking.


Clearly then, you are mentally the age of 9, because it is painfully obvious that you are incapable of thinking for yourself and can only spout the moronic talking points that you've been brainwashed into believing.

Seriously, get some help.






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NC_Tigah
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but I do not believe in fairy tales
Of course you do. The difference being, at least those you criticize recognize their beliefs as a matter of faith. Ironically you take the next step with faith in your beliefs as fact.






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SpartyGator
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germandawg

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Newbomb Turk


Can both die in a fire






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Revelator
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No doubt, but I do not believe in fairy tales and haven't since I was 10 years old and was capable of thinking. My being so does not mean that Religion is not a gateway psychosis. It is by any definition.....



Since God does not exist because you don't believe he does, if you had a change of heart and started to believe, would he suddenly exist?






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Powerman
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Says the man admitting strawman accusations were BS ? ! ? ! ? !

Really?

The point is that your "argument" had nothing to do with the topic.

Gay marriage must be terrible because Obama didn't cut the deficit in half.

See how stupid that sounds?






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germandawg
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Of course you do. The difference being, at least those you criticize recognize their beliefs as a matter of faith. Ironically you take the next step with faith in your beliefs as fact.


I do not have any "beliefs" and thus do not hold any as fact. But it is interesting that you claim that believers recognize their beliefs as a matter of faith. I do not find this in on of a thousand that I have met in my life. I find more who will claim to have proof of a God in the form of a tree or a child than I have ever met who claim to merely have faith in God without the need for proof. For example, anyone who tells you that their God has been banned from public life (school etc.) is openly admitting that their faith is wanting and they are relying on fact. I would suggest that the vast, vast majority of religous people, especially those on the right, would fall into this category. I am sure there is a rare exception of a believer who relies on beleif (faith) alone without seeking any further evidence, but that is a rare person indeed, again in my experience. I don't have any faith of any sort. I do not claim to have any evidence of the existance of a god or lack thereof. I know beyond any doubt that religion and belief is a gateway to mental illness as the evidence supporting this is overwhelming and has existed since time out of mind. Believers do not necessarily have to succomb to this illness, but many do.






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germandawg
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Since God does not exist because you don't believe he does, if you had a change of heart and started to believe, would he suddenly exist?


In as much as Unicorns exist in my three year old daughters world yes.....If i suddenly went insane and believed in God then, in my world, God would exist, as she does in every believers universe.






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NC_Tigah
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The point is that your "argument" had nothing to do with the topic.

The argument has nothing to do with "gay marriage being terrible because Obama didn't cut the deficit in half."
It has to do with your consistent dismissals of obviously predictable outcomes as somehow unlikely.

i.e.,
Obamacare adding to the deficit was completely predictable, but was somehow deemed unlikely by your crowd.

The fact that Obama was never going to cut our deficit in half was completely predictable. Yet his claims were somehow accepted as probable by your crowd.

Obama and his Chicago politicians were never going to embrace transparency, much less create the most transparent administration in history. Yet his claims were somehow accepted as probable by your crowd.

Now the fact that gay activists do not intend "marriage" as an endpoint, but rather as a manipulative means-to-an-end is completely predictable, yet somehow again it's deemed unlikely by your crowd.



Such dismissals of the obvious might have first been attributed to brianwashed ignorance, then to willful stupidity, but now it appears we've crossed the threshold to blatant duplicity.




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NC_Tigah
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I do not have any "beliefs"
Of course you do.

e.g., You believe government is "prohibiting gay marriage".






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Homesick Tiger
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germandawg


So are you saying that anything that has to do with a belief and/or faith doesn't exist for you? Love is not something you can actually see or reach out and touch. Does love not exist for you since it is inanimate?






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