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TigerinATL
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The demand for food in the world will continue to grow and these nuts, couples with the organic nuts, stand in the way of pretty much every innovation in the area of improving production.



Improving production at what cost though? They are biased, but I think all the recent anti-factory-food documentaries make a pretty good case for over processed food being at the heart of our obesity epidemic and the related health problems. I think we've hit a point of diminishing returns in food production efficiency. I don't have a problem with GMO foods conceptually, but they are being modified to lower production cost without consideration to the effects on nutrition. Basically they are growing food that needs to be processed less, which saves money, but letting the body process the foods instead of the factory is what keeps us from eating too much crap and getting fat and diabetic.

I also have become anti-Monsanto. Normally I have no problem with big business beating Mom and Pop and I've defended Walmart many times here, but Monsanto's shameful abuse of our legal system is reducing the variety in seeds in our food supply which I consider a potential threat to our food supply.



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RogerTheShrubber
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Basically they are growing food that needs to be processed less, which saves money, but letting the body process the foods instead of the factory is what keeps us from eating too much crap and getting fat and diabetic.


Looks like a great business opportunity for small, organic family farms to me.






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TigerinATL
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Looks like a great business opportunity for small, organic family farms to me.


I don't know how long it will take, but I think they'll eventually realize that the best way to lower healthcare costs is at the grocery store, not the doctor's office.






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SlowFlowPro
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but I think they'll eventually realize that the best way to lower healthcare costs is at the grocery store, not the doctor's office.

i don't think anybody argues that, actually

but the people this is most aimed at essentially don't care. they have socialized medicine and food...why would they?






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Springfield XD
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I think we've hit a point of diminishing returns in food production efficiency. I don't have a problem with GMO foods conceptually, but they are being modified to lower production cost without consideration to the effects on nutrition. Basically they are growing food that needs to be processed less, which saves money, but letting the body process the foods instead of the factory is what keeps us from eating too much crap and getting fat and diabetic.


I think you are saying food from biotech crops is less nutritious? Not by any conventional measure. The vast majority of biotech crops are fed to livestock; whose rations are monitored and measured intricately. Feed costs are the largest cost in producing meat and they have to be minimized.

If the corn and soybean-based feed they were buying had less feed value, they would raise Hell. They aren't raising Hell because it's not happening. If anything, the starch, protein and oil content is getting better, not worse.

There are no biotech fruits or vegetables raised in the US so your argument is invalid there as well. Americans are fat and diabetic because they are stupid.






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blueboy
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This segment of Penn & Teller's "bullshite" was pretty good.

LINK






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vodkacop
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My biggest wtf? Is if this is for the good of mankind and not a money grab then why is Monsanto trying to sue everyone? You get millions from the government yet you get all elementary school by wanting to fight everyone(sue). WTF? Are they just trying to push the smaller farmers out so they can have a monopoly on corn by using this sue tactics.? Also most of these companies are started by big government grants so to say money ain't an issue is being kind of blind. All companies are started to make money. But hey if Monsanto can engineer a viable and sustaining crop thatgrows in sand or pplaces with little to no water, I'm behind it.





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kevv824
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Monsanto didn't get into gmos to help the starving Africans, they did it to sell more fricking roundup





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SammyTiger
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So eating corn that is genetically designed to burst the stomach lining of insects thus killing them sounds like a good thing for humans to eat?


We have fairy different physiologies. Do you think they don't test these things on human?






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SlowFlowPro
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My biggest wtf? Is if this is for the good of mankind and not a money grab then why is Monsanto trying to sue everyone?

the good of mankind and profit often go hand in hand

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You get millions from the government

monsanto does? for what?

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Are they just trying to push the smaller farmers out so they can have a monopoly on corn by using this sue tactics.?

monsanto isn't a farming company. they just produce seeds that farmers use

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All companies are started to make money.

but they only do make money by serving the public. they produce goods or services we need, at a price we like, and they profit. that's win-win for everyone

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But hey if Monsanto can engineer a viable and sustaining crop thatgrows in sand or pplaces with little to no water, I'm behind it.

even if you have to pay for it, and even if they make money for it. that's called science and capitalism, and it's great






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SlowFlowPro
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Monsanto didn't get into gmos to help the starving Africans, they did it to sell more fricking roundup

one in the same thing






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reverendotis
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I wish there was a way to post without replying to another post as this isn't really meant as a response to the OP.

How many of those expressing a strong negative opinion of "genetically modified" crops have anything more than a casual understanding of agriculture, agribusiness or farming in general?



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Springfield XD
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Monsanto didn't get into gmos to help the starving Africans, they did it to sell more fricking roundup



The 1st biotech crop Monsanto sold in Africa was insect-resistant cotton. Cotton that requires dramatically less insecticide use.

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How many of those expressing a strong negative opinion of "genetically modified" crops have anything more than a casual understanding of agriculture, agribusiness or farming in general?


Does an organic pot garden count?



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olgoi khorkhoi
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Using science to create something that feeds millions of people and make a better product is one thing. Using unlimited funds and the backing of the US government to put non gmo farmers out of business via lawsuits is another thing. frick monsanto.





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