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I B Freeman
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LABI has some large members that are going to lose some benefits of tax loopholes under the current tax structure.

I own a business and I am all for the swap.






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EST
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re: The Red State Path to Prosperity


I am for any reduction in taxes.






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crawdaddy52
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I think big corp. decisions like relocations are more complicated than "no income tax". Available educated work force and infrastructure would probably be higher on the list. The silicon valley is there because the California university system produces a lot of bright grads.





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I B Freeman
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I think big corp. decisions like relocations are more complicated than "no income tax". Available educated work force and infrastructure would probably be higher on the list. The silicon valley is there because the California university system produces a lot of bright grads.


And Texas education system is so much better than ours because??

No corporate income tax is a biggie I promise you.

Think about a company that makes say $10 million---that is not much in the corporate world--a small company. You are talking about $750,000 in income tax alone in Louisiana and then we pop them with a franchise tax too!! That is every year too--not a one time thing.



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Antonio Moss
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There are states that take more from the feds than they give, and there are states the give more to the feds than they take.

The states that take more are generally found in the sunbelt while the states that generally give more are in the North.


Because those states have a higher population of dysfunctional Americans who receive a majority of Federal Government benefits. It's not surprising that majority of those states' population oppose federal government entitle plans considering they are first-hand witnesses to the effects.


This isn't fricking rocket science.






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ironsides
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There are states that take more from the feds than they give, and there are states the give more to the feds than they take.

The states that take more are generally found in the sunbelt while the states that generally give more are in the North.

I'm sorry you don't like that situation, but I beieve it has some influence on where people are moving to.


Why do I sense your definition of "Taking" to be "winning government contracts" as opposed to "welfare / food stamps"?

Winning businesess =/= state welfare, but you won't read the statistics on welfare rolls in the Huffington Post, MSNBC, and the NY Times so I won't count on you to provide it.







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Tchefuncte Tiger
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LINK

Here's another intersting article.

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Americans are migrating from less-free liberal states to more-free conservative states, where they are doing better economically, according to a new study published Thursday by the George Mason University's Mercatus Center.

The "Freedom in the 50 States" study measured economic and personal freedom using a wide range of criteria, including tax rates, government spending and debt, regulatory burdens, and state laws covering land use, union organizing, gun control, education choice and more.

It found that the freest states tended to be conservative "red" states, while the least free were liberal "blue" states.




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Quidam65
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However, with the actual transplants, you will see less social conservatism, but you will see a positive recognition of fiscal conservatism to a degree.


Concur to a point. But one notable area of "less social conservatism" is the gun issue, which is having an impact on fiscal matters (Magpul leaving Colorado, Remington and Beretta considering leaving Connecticut and Maryland, respectively, many manufacturers such as Barrett and LaRue not selling to LEO or citizens of certain states).






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I B Freeman
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It's not surprising that majority of those states' population oppose federal government entitle plans considering they are first-hand witnesses to the effects.









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alajones
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All of these are in low-tax, business-friendly red states. Blue-state areas such as Cleveland, Detroit, Buffalo, Providence and Rochester were among the biggest population losers.
And they move down south, and keep voting democrat.

Couple this with demographic changes and boom, all red states are doomed. Espescially in the south.






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EZE Tiger Fan
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Couple this with demographic changes and boom, all red states are doomed. Espescially in the south.


Bingo.

I predict states like TX, LA, AL and GA will be blue within 20 years.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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Hell yah! If you own a successful business, do you want a bunch of new competition moving in? Nope.

So the change in tax structure would only benefit new businesses moving in and not existing businesses?






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Aubie Spr96
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I predict states like TX, LA, AL and GA will be blue within 20 years.



Shut your whore mouth! However, in 20 years I might be living in Chile or New Zealand by then anyway.....






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EZE Tiger Fan
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Shut your whore mouth!


I agree. I hate to say it. Makes me cringe, but it is true.

What are you going to do? You can't kick people out, nor can you make them see the error of their ways, especially groups who REFUSE to be accountable for anything.






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Scruffy
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So the change in tax structure would only benefit new businesses moving in and not existing businesses?
Not what he is saying. The change in tax structure would result in new businesses and those businesses have the potential to negatively affect the ones already here.

The altered tax structure would help both, but the new competition hurts the existing businesses.






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MississippiLSUfan
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You hear this argument from these clowns every day. But there are facts that kind of get in the way of the whole 'red states take and blue states give' argument.

YOU people made the takers in our states and we would be happy to give them to you. Here's an idea...how about we just stop the programs that You started and just stand back and watch the migration?

All of the red states would be solvent. Your map would be flipped.

You insisted on the burden. The takers damn near outnumber the makers here. Create an environment for them to come home to you and we'll be fine.

Your silly map is a result of the dem's policies. If the spigot is turned off, the 'chickens' will finally come home to roost.







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Taxing Authority
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So the change in tax structure would only benefit new businesses moving in and not existing businesses?
You can't possibly believe that's what I asserted.



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WildTchoupitoulas
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It's not surprising that majority of those states' population oppose federal government entitle plans considering they are first-hand witnesses to the effects.

"Red" states, can't get off the dole.


Hmmmm....






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Aubie Spr96
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What are you going to do? You can't kick people out, nor can you make them see the error of their ways, especially groups who REFUSE to be accountable for anything.



We will all move to a state or a country and take it over.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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You can't possibly believe that's what I asserted.

You implied that LABI doesn't want a level playing field - even if tax change benefits their bottom line in the short term.

Either that, or I don't know what the frick.






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