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re: Will Paul Mainieri's base salary ever eclipse Nikki Caldwell?

Posted on 3/28/13 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 11:41 pm to
And guess what if everyone else didn't put money into sports that didn't bring in money our baseball team would be playing split squad scrimmages against itself for 5 months.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 11:48 pm to
College baseball is so irrelevant that every year with or without dick woman that a woman's version of the 2nd most popular sport out draws it on tv.and has a much better tv contract.

So while paul deserves his pay, giving him more money for a sport no one cares about is over kill
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 11:49 pm to
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Because it's based on the market. Could Manieri go coach college baseball somewhere else and be paid as well? Likewise for Caldwell?


This is the correct answer.

Elite women's basketball programs (Connecticut, Tennessee) bring in pretty significant revenue. You bring in a coach like Caldwell hoping to get into that league. It's a very tough club to join but the money's there if you can and that drives up the price of a coach with a rising star.

By way of contrast, Mainieri is already at the top of the college baseball revenue ranks and his compensation isn't being pulled up by the presence of better programs.

Kinda similar to the coach of any college tennis program, men's or women's. It's actually a lot of fun to watch them play in a very close setting, but they are not exactly driving revenue no matter how good the coach is.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 11:51 pm to
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And guess what if everyone else didn't put money into sports that didn't bring in money our baseball team would be playing split squad scrimmages against itself for 5 months.


Well, they'd probably just shut down the program and the players would play Cactus League and some such. But it amazes me that college baseball continues to exist given the support for most programs.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:08 am to
And while I appreciate your sympathy, the only reason womens sports exist is title IX. It IS all about money. That's why tiger stadium gets expanded and improved, that's why millions of dollars were spent on a new baseball stadium. If it weren't for T9, that new softball stadium wouldn't have been built. Aside from softball and soccer, men's and women's sports share facilities. If it wouldn't have been deemed unfair to not build a softball stadium, it wouldn't have been built.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 12:10 am
Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
3081 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 10:02 am to
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And while I appreciate your sympathy, the only reason womens sports exist is title IX. It IS all about money. That's why tiger stadium gets expanded and improved, that's why millions of dollars were spent on a new baseball stadium. If it weren't for T9, that new softball stadium wouldn't have been built. Aside from softball and soccer, men's and women's sports share facilities. If it wouldn't have been deemed unfair to not build a softball stadium, it wouldn't have been built.



Uhm, you DO realize there were women's college sports BEFORE Title IX right?

All Title IX does is state that equal opportunity should be given to the women's athletic programs at a university. I'm not quite seeing why that's a bad thing...............................unless you just think that women should not play sports. Thank God that the university administrators don't think the same way.

As someone stated earlier, college sports is not a business. Unlike professional sports, It's not solely in existence to bring in revenue. What universities try to do is MAXIMIZE any revenue they CAN bring in under the rules. Don't get distracted by the fact LSU is one of those insitutions who's football program brings in over $100 million. Most universities lose money on their ENTIRE athletic program. If sports were truly a business.........as some here like to think.........most universities would have to shut down their programs.

So, the question then becomes...........why do college sports exist? CLEARLY its not to make money. There must be some other value that it brings to the university community. Once you can bring yourself to see it that way, then you'll understand why things are the way they are.

Again, whether Manieri makes more or less money than Caldwell is irrelevant and shouldn't even be a point of discussion........................unless somehow folks think it's unfair. But, the market for coaches for the two sports isn't "fair". You pay market value to get the best coach you can. PERIOD. Both Manieri and Caldwell are worth every penny they get, in the eyes of the athletic administration, regardless of how a few male chauvinists feel.

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if there wasn't a chick with a dick in the final, no one would watch.



Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. You even actually watch the women's final four? It sells out EVERY YEAR. You have to get tickets on StubHub or Ebay if you want to go. Also, check their TV ratings against the College World Series. YOU will probably be surprise.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 10:09 am
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7005 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:58 pm to
Don't start sentences with" uhmm" unless you want to be seen as a thirteen year old girl.
Posted by TigerWerm
7th circle of hell
Member since Nov 2005
5780 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 3:04 pm to
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And FWIW, Manieri is one of the highest paid college baseball coaches in America. I'm sure Caldwell is paid nicely, but her salary doesn't approach the highest.


This

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Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
2574 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:17 pm to
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Ummm, doesn't a women's basketball coach typically get paid more than a baseball coach? I'm pretty sure that's the case.




Salary should be based on revenue produced by the product on the field and fans in the stands.Coaches salaries should be based on a percentage of the revenues producted by the individual sport.
Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
3081 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:38 pm to
No.....actually it shouldn't.
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