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Also, there is a faith aspect to it, I will not deny it. But setting that aside for a moment, which is hard to do, it still does not sit well with me. I find it corruptible act that produces nothing but self pleasure to serve the needs of oneself. There's no product of the union. If there is a product, I think it's a distorted one based in accumulation of one's own self pleasure and gratification.


I don't think all homophobes are gay, but this reads like a gay manifesto.. It sounds like you're pissed that all these gay dudes are getting it on while you're stuck birthing indigent offspring.






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dominustd
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I don't think the US government can make that distinction. Sorta 1st amendment stuff.

that being said my synagogue offers same sex marriages. How are laws picking catholic or traditional christian definitions of Marriage not against the 1st amendment.


Because we ought to know this country was founded on Christian principles and the institution of marriage predates Christianity with man and woman.

Edit: Add a church who violates the institution is really not a church under God, but a willful mock of Him.



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SammyTiger
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Because we ought to know this country was founded on Christian principles and the institution of marriage predates Christianity with man and woman.

Edit: Add a church who violates the institution is really not a church under God, but a willful mock of Him.


Christian Principals maybe but we have a constitutional right to equal religious protection form the government, also the government if prohibited from passing a law respecting a establishment of religion. mean they can;t pick a state religion. So no matter how much you think your religious view are what this country is built on, you are simply wrong.

I would say many people disagree with you about what G-d true nature is.






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ShortyRob
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Recently I noticed the media's portraying the pro- gay marriage paradigm as shifting. I'm not so sure. The loudest voices aren't always speaking for the majority. I'm here to check-in as anti-gay marriage. Not that I hate gay people. I just refuse to acknowledge their union.


Ho hum. But another example where people believe that being OK with something legally is = to supporting the act.

I am "anti" gay marriage. I think two dudes being married is an absurdity. Those are my PERSONAL views and even if they start getting licenses, I will continue to literally laugh in homo faces when they say they're "Married".

And. I STILL am perfectly supportive of their freedom to do shite I think is fricked up cause, they aren't forcing me to.

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just trying to get a read on my fellow conservatives.
Frankly, I consider people who think goverment should be regulating marriage to be as liberal as people who think they should be regulating every damned area of business.






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Blue Velvet
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just trying to get a read on my fellow conservatives






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rbWarEagle
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Because we ought to know this country was founded on Christian principles


Laughable. The founding fathers were quite vocal about their views towards organized religion.

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"What is it the Bible teaches us? -- rapine, cruelty, and murder. What is it the Testament teaches us? -- to believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married, and the belief of this debauchery is called faith.”

"It is the fable of Jesus Christ, as told in the New Testament, and the wild and visionary doctrine raised thereon, against which I contend. The story, taking it as it is told, is blasphemously obscene.”
~ Thomas Jefferson, of many:

"There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites."
~ James Madison:

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."

“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” (Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Written during the Administration of George Washington and signed into law by John Adams.)







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olgoi khorkhoi
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I don't know that I'm conservative. Somewhere between that and libertarian and also Christian and I don't care what gay people do.

I think people and the government should stop trying to tell people what they can and can't do.






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Rickety Cricket
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Because we ought to know this country was founded on Christian principles and the institution of marriage predates Christianity with man and woman.

Your religion means nothing with respect to the governing laws of this country.






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ljhog
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Your religion means nothing with respect to the governing laws of this country.


that's just ignorant






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Rickety Cricket
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Care to explain why?





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davesdawgs
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80% of marriages are performed in churches or synagogues. This makes marriage a largely religious institution. If the DOMA is replaced with a national gay marriage act, the government will unnecessarily create a conflict between freedom of religion and the civil rights of homosexuals. As such, I suggest that all civil rights currently associated with marriage be granted through civil unions. In other words, government needs to get out of the marriage business. If gays want to be "married", they can set up their own institutions outside the realm of religion for this purpose. Marriage would essentially become a private matter completely separate from government which it should be since liberals are so intent on separation of church and state.


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VOR
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corruptible act that produces nothing but self pleasure to serve the needs of oneself. There's no product of the union. If there is a product, I think it's a distorted one based in accumulation of one's own self pleasure and gratification.


Sounds like college.






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DeathValley85
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The government put themselves in the marriage business when they started giving benefits to married couples.

This is strictly an equality issue. As it stands gay couples don't have access to those benefits for the sole reason that they are gay. It is discrimination on the basis of their sexual orientation.

I think the real issue is certain people don't want it called "marriage" for gay couples.






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Buddy Garrity
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If the DOMA is replaced with a national gay marriage act, the government will unnecessarily create a conflict between freedom of religion and the civil rights of homosexuals.


uhhhh no. the churches don't/won't be required to marry gay couples.






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thetempleowl
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80% of marriages are performed in churches or synagogues. This makes marriage a largely religious institution.


Really? Interesting you say this. I wonder if you could tell me who licenses 100% of those marriages?

I think the person who licenses and tracks and record keeps these marriages are the institution that controls marriage.

And do religions do that? Uh, no. Lets face it, the religious aspect of marriage is really not important in the least in this country. The religious aspect of it is simple show. It is nothing else.

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If the DOMA is replaced with a national gay marriage act, the government will unnecessarily create a conflict between freedom of religion and the civil rights of homosexuals


Not in the least. I wonder how often people get tired of being wrong and I come here and find that some people never tire of it.

Tell me, did the government force churches to marry interracial marriages? Did Loving create a conflict between freedom of religion and the civil rights movement?

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As such, I suggest that all civil rights currently associated with marriage be granted through civil unions. In other words, government needs to get out of the marriage business.


The final solution to a anti-guy person who sees the writing on the wall...

What you don't realize is that the government has been in the marriage business for hundreds of years.

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If gays want to be "married", they can set up their own institutions outside the realm of religion for this purpose.


Why would they do this? More and more religions are ok with marrying gay people. They just aren't recognized by the state yet.

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Marriage would essentially become a private matter completely separate from government which it should be since liberals are so intent on separation of church and state.


Kinda late for that, don't you think? You want to undo hundreds of years of legal precedents by changing some basic laws of the government? All because of why? You are afraid of two men getting married?

This belief is just ridiculous.

It tires me that stupidity has been given reign so long in our country. It tires me to think that the supreme court is afraid to make a ruling that they know is right because of stupidity. It tires me that stupidity through a centuries old book thrown together by a bunch of people hundreds of years after the possible existence of an unproven person that has multiple mistakes in it and is constantly being retranslated to correct for mistakes is being used as a reason why we shouldn't allow this even though freedom of religion is one of the basic tenants of our country. I am tired of the stupidity that feels that freedom of religion means people are free to be christian and only christian. I am tired of the stupidity out there that believes this is a christian nation.

In short I am tired of lots of stupidity and it all seems to dovetail in this issue. The time of stupidity is coming to an end. Whether it comes quickly or more slowly, it is coming.

And when it does come, all of the stupid people will pretend they were not stupid during this time.






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thetempleowl
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corruptible act that produces nothing but self pleasure to serve the needs of oneself.


I thought that could make you go blind and cause hairy palms?

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There's no product of the union. If there is a product


Strange, I thought there was a product...

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I think it's a distorted one based in accumulation of one's own self pleasure and gratification.


I thought that was the whole point? Self pleasure and gratification...

Hold it what are you talking about?






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thetempleowl
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uhhhh no. the churches don't/won't be required to marry gay couples.


Why would you expect people who are obviously deluded would yield to or understand you when you try to inject intelligence into the conversation?

I mean the Loving ruling that made interracial marriage allowable forced churches to perform ceremonies on interracial couples even if against their beliefs.*

So obviously they are going to force all kinds of churches to marry two men. And that will just cause the eventual downfall of our country. Because it will weaken the institution of marriage. That bedrock that keeps this country around. That bedrock of our country that can not be torn asunder by man. **

This decision could destroy the moral fabric of our country...

















*Actually, the Loving ruling, while not allowing the government to prohibit interracial marriages allowed churches to do what they please. Some churches still to this day refuse to perform interracial marriages.

**Unless you count divorce as tearing asunder. That that bedrock of our society has a failure rate of over fifty percent.






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NC_Tigah
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the Loving ruling
Comparing Loving and Gay Marriage is rather silly, don't you think?






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VOR
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thetempleowl



Dude, I wish you would make it clear that those are not my quotes.






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Buddy Garrity
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Comparing Loving and Gay Marriage is rather silly, don't you think?



not really






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