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Do you agree that sexual orientation should be included as a protected class under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act?


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DawgfaninCa
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If it were still in effect, yes, it would discriminate against white males. It hasn't been the law for decades now. I always thought people were just talking figuratively, but now I'm beginning to think you really DO live several decades in the past.

You must have had your head up your arse for decades.

Not only does AA still exist but now "Diversity" also exists.

Sorry but we can't hire you even though you are a qualified white male because we don't have a left handed cross-eyed lesbian Japanese woman working for us yet so we have an outreach program to find one to hire.









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Nuts4LSU
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why not move to an area where you were welcomed? and don't tell me that it's impossible. when GA enacted new legislation regarding immigration reforms, the poorest of the poor in this country move states over to avoid them. it's possible


The question isn't whether they can move. It's whether they are harmed. Clearly they are.

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where is the end, then? there has to be an end


Who knows? When there is a problem, we fix it. When there's an end to the problems, there'll be an end to fixing them.

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why not? other than through emotional thinking, i mean we systematically exclude people from our property all the time. you're angry about certain groups b/c it makes you feel bad


If we want the benefit of a free market society where we don't have to depend on the government for every need, such as food, a job, a place to live, etc. and instead allow those things to be provided by private enterprise, we have to have some limitations on the freedom of private enterprise to systematically exclude people from these necessary things for no good reason.

If all private businesses were free to discriminate at will, then in theory every grocery store in the country could refuse to serve people of a given classsification. So what then? Do we just make them starve? Do we open government stores so they can shop there? Surely you can't be suggesting that absolute freedom to do whatever you want, no matter how much it harms someone else, would be a good thing.






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RogerTheShrubber
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If all private businesses were free to discriminate at will, then in theory every grocery store in the country could refuse to serve people of a given classsification.


May be the most ignorant thing I have seen all day.

Do you people really live with this kind of fear gripping your life??

Where there is a market, people will sell. Excluding customers only hurts the business. If one business excludes a group of people, you can bet your arse one down the street will cater to them.






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OMLandshark
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Honestly, I don't know, because I despise the need for protected classes still, and especially affirmative action. Granted I could see the possibility of it, but not really.

But I don't really see why it would come up in an interview. If any HR person asked this, I'd fire them in a heartbeat, since that would open me up for a hell of a lawsuit if I didn't hire them.



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Jbird
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Meh I think everyone should be a protected class, well except white hetero dudes, yeah other than those guys.





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Nuts4LSU
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That's so obvious that there's no longer any real debate about whether we should have suspect classifications.

this is bull shite and a rational flaw of progressives your thoughts are right, so there's no point to debating it.


I didn't say there's no point to debating it. I said there's no real debate about it. Point me to the big national debates going on right now over whether it should be against the law to exclude people from restaurants on the basis of race. It's been settled.

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They are a permanent part of our society.

declaring any public program as a "permanent" part of our society is foolish and stupid, imho


Of course nothing is truly permanent, not even society itself, but the question of whether discrimination based on suspect classes should be illegal is about as settled as any question in a society can be. I doubt you could find a single politician who would say we should allow hotels, restaurants, grocery stores, etc. to serve whites only or restrictive covenants to exlude Jews from neighborhoods, and probably only a very small percentage of the general public would say that if surveyed.

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let's remember how much worse the black community is now.


A subjective judgment not supported by the facts.

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do you want to "go back" from a super high rate of black babies born without fathers?


You don't think that was happening before the civil rights movement?

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or a super high rate of blacks on public assistance?


Public assistance wasn't as extensive then as it is now. If it had been, I doubt the numbers would have been any lower then, and almost certainly would have been higher.

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I think we should and that, if we didn't, we'd land right back into the problems that led to the turbulent times you think are so long ago and irrelevant.

why?


Because it happened before, to the great detriment of many millions of people and society as a whole.






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SammyTiger
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If this were to happen, what to stop me from yelling I'm gay and I was discriminated for an easy cash grab? How can you prove that you're gay?


Court systems that make you prove you were discriminated against because you were gay. You would have to prove that they knew you were gay and discriminated against you because of this.






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Nuts4LSU
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Where there is a market, people will sell. Excluding customers only hurts the business.


The market didn't stop it from happening before. Why do you assume it would now?






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Jbird
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The market didn't stop it from happening before. Why do you assume it would now?

Societal norms have shifted, reason number one Hillary "evolved" on gay marriage. If not that bitch would have stayed silent.






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RogerTheShrubber
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The market didn't stop it from happening before. Why do you assume it would now?


The world is a much different place than it was then.

How much longer do you think wide spread segregation would have lasted? Were we as a nation segregated?






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DawgfaninCa
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The world is a much different place than it was then.

How much longer do you think wide spread segregation would have lasted? Were we as a nation segregated?


Isn't it funny how the Left keeps talking about how much they have evolved and how much they must get the world to evolve but they won't admit that we have evolved and will no longer support things like slavery, segregation and same race marriage?








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Nuts4LSU
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The market didn't stop it from happening before. Why do you assume it would now?

The world is a much different place than it was then.


Thanks mainly to laws making it illegal to discriminate based on suspect classifications.

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How much longer do you think wide spread segregation would have lasted?


I have no idea. I do know that letting it last as long as it did was wrong and letting it last any longer would have been...well, wronger.






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Nuts4LSU
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Isn't it funny how the Left keeps talking about how much they have evolved and how much they must get the world to evolve but they won't admit that we have evolved and will no longer support things like slavery, segregation and same race marriage?


Not as funny as how the right seems to forget that it was these very laws and others like them that made that happen.






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RogerTheShrubber
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Isn't it funny how the Left keeps talking about how much they have evolved and how much they must get the world to evolve but they won't admit that we have evolved and will no longer support things like slavery, segregation and same race marriage?


Evidently their new vision of the world only extends so far.






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Champagne
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Does not matter what you think or I think about whether Gay, Lesbian, Transgendered, Bisexual, etc. should be a protected class under Title VII.

FedGov is going to make them all a protected class one day in the future. I guarantee this.

You think these people are in the game for shits and giggles? Hell no. They are in the game to be rewarded for their loyalty to the Democrat Party, and the rewards are coming. Once they are Title VII protected class, then each licensed attorney in the USA can act as a private attorney general to sue to protect those Title VII protected class civil rights.

That's when they collect on the bill and get rewarded for their loyalty to the Democrat Party.



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Champagne
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this is what i fear being the end result of the gay rights movement


That's the WHOLE IDEA behind the "Gay Rights Movement." Wake up.

How many billions in pay-outs will the gay community be collecting once they get Title VII protected class status? Many.






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Champagne
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Thats crazy that you can fire someone for being gay. God, it's 2013. Prejudice has no place in today's society for religion, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation and probably other stuff.


FedGov needs to take the reins from us all and make sure that we live in the kind of paradise that we know only Government can give us, right?






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Champagne
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I was told clubs to not bother to join as a Jewish kid from the NY area.


I hope that you did not feel too "left out" back then for that nonsense. Fact is, from what I know about our social history, back in 1973, even your average lower middle class Cajun kid from the La. bayou would not be welcome in any of the "WASP"-dominated social circles back then.

For all I know, there are probably STILL some WASP-y clubs in BR that don't like Cajuns and Jews.






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ForeLSU
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If all private businesses were free to discriminate at will, then in theory every grocery store in the country could refuse to serve people of a given classsification. So what then? Do we just make them starve? Do we open government stores so they can shop there? Surely you can't be suggesting that absolute freedom to do whatever you want, no matter how much it harms someone else, would be a good thing.


the market has a much better chance at rectifying this situation vs. the government






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