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Can "stupid people" be part of a protected class?


Yes.






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ColaTiger
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yes i'm such a knuckle dragger and idiot


And you're an arrogant dickhead trying way too hard to get everybody on here to like you. Yes, I stooped to your level.



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Nuts4LSU
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If this were to happen, what to stop me from yelling I'm gay and I was discriminated for an easy cash grab?


The same thing that stops African-Americans from simply yelling "I'm African-American and I was discriminated against" and automatically getting cash. You have to be able to prove the discrimination occurred and that it was based on the prohibited classification. That's extremely difficult to do, which is why so very few people even file, let alone win, those lawsuits.

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How can you prove that you're gay?


Most gay people would probably have no trouble proving it. Obviously, their own testimony that they are gay would be part of it, but other circumstantial evidence would also be relevant. Others could be called as witnesses to testify that they have held themselves out as gay for a long time, have lived with a partner, have had sex with another man, etc.

Proving that they were discriminated against for being gay would be a MUCH bigger hurdle.

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I don't think anything good can come out of this.


A free and just society in which everyone enjoys the equal protection of the laws?






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Should homosexuality be a protected class?


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Do you agree that sexual orientation should be included as a protected class


The OP asks two different questions really. Protected classes are usually "neutral" except for a few select ones such as age (40 or over generally protected from discrimination - it doesn't go the other way (i.e., you can discriminate against young people)).

The law doesn't say - don't discriminate against "blacks" or "women" or "hindus" or "mexicans." It says don't discriminate on the basis of race/color (e.g., black OR white), gender (female OR male), religion (e.g. hindu OR christian), national origin (american OR mexican).

The same goes for sexual orientation laws (in jurisdictions that have them). They are written neutrally - no discrimination based on a person's sexual orientation (straight, gay, or bi).

Now in practice people may find that these laws are not APPLIED neutrally (as evidenced by many people's surprise that a white male is clearly a member of multiple protected classes just like a black female), but that is the way they are written.








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SlowFlowPro
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trying way too hard to get everybody on here to like you.







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udtiger
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re: Should homosexuality be a protected class?


no





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Nuts4LSU
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You can't fire someone just because they are gay, can you?


Right now, yes, in most places. Some cities and some states have anti-discrimination laws that protect people from discrimination based on sexual orientation, but in most places, yes, a person can be fired for being gay and has no legal recourse.






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SlowFlowPro
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A free and just society in which everyone enjoys the equal protection of the laws?

ignoring the actual application of these laws ("Race" means "race of minorities" only in application), this law itself is discriminatory and ANTI-equality

the very fact that certain classes of people become protected, while others are not, means there is NOT equality amongst all. those in the "select few" groups of the legislation have more rights than other groups who weren't lucky enough to be included

take the legislation cited. sexual orientation is NOT part of the law. that means the law treats different groups differently






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townhallsavoy
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I'm planning on applying to medical school in a few years.

If gays become a protected class that receive affirmative action, I'm going to divorce my wife, claim to be gay, and get into the best damn medical school that lacks a gay student population.






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theunknownknight
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How can you prove that you're gay?


Easy. The government will create a website for applying to the "gay class"

Www.proveyouareahomo.gov

There will be a web app there for you to submit all required ID info, photo ID, and an unedited video of you having gay sex with a soft light hitting your face to help determine your identity during the act as well as compliment your eyes while you peak.

This video will be reviewed by several homos to determine if you really enjoyed the act.



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MoreOrLes
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Should homosexuality be a protected class


No






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ColaTiger
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At least you didn't deny that you're an arrogant dickhead. That's a start.





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Nuts4LSU
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No protected classes. All should be treated equally in the eyes of justice and government.


You realize your two statements directly contradict each other, right? Without "protected classes" (which are really not protected classes but prohibited classifications), you could classify people by, for example, race and prohibit members of a given race from entering your restaurant, working at your company, etc. To insure that people are treated equally under the law, we have laws that prohibit classification based on certain characteristics, such as race, gender, religion, etc.






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Queen
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The same thing that stops African-Americans from simply yelling "I'm African-American and I was discriminated against" and automatically getting cash. You have to be able to prove the discrimination occurred and that it was based on the prohibited classification. That's extremely difficult to do, which is why so very few people even file, let alone win, those lawsuits.


Uh...wrong.

It's almost impossible for a big oil company to fire a black engineer, for example.

I know someone who sucked at life and was employed in a management position at a big company because said company lost a lawsuit for not having enough women in management. It took five consecutive years of losses before they could finally demote her to a commission-only job that would force her to leave the company when she made no sales.






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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Thats crazy that you can fire someone for being gay. God, it's 2013. Prejudice has no place in today's society for religion, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation and probably other stuff.


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theunknownknight
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Thats crazy that you can fire someone for being gay. God, it's 2013. Prejudice has no place in today's socieety for religion, race, etnhicity, sexual oreintation and probably other stuff.


Can you fire someone for sucking at their job? Yes











How is that different than firing someone for sucking dick?






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Queen
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Thats crazy that you can fire someone for being gay. God, it's 2013. Prejudice has no place in today's society for religion, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation and probably other stuff.


Just because the government has not said you can't, doesn't mean some companies don't already add sexual orientation to their list. Most of the applications I filled out when job hunting a couple years ago said so.






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Should homosexuality be a protected class?



No, they're perverts. They should be ridiculed and ostracized.






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Nuts4LSU
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our government has so skewed the concept of equal protection, it has created suspect classes that have more rights than those not in the suspect classes


That's an exaggeration.

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Male-only restaurants? why not? why would a restaurant cut out half of the market i'll never understand, but if it has a plan to make up for it, then the owner should be allowed to test out this plan


Well, plenty of restaurants saw fit to cut out a large part of the market when they adopted "whites only" policies. Should this practice have been allowed to continue?

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No-Jews-allowed real estate restrictive covenants? those are born from private agreement, no?


Yes, they were parts of private agreements. A property owner could sell his property to someone else with a restrictive covenant that the property could never be sold to a Jewish person. Covenants based on race were common, too. This allowed people to enforce segregation of neighborhoods and areas by race, religion, etc. You think this should be allowed, too?






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theunknownknight
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No, they're perverts. They should be ridiculed and ostracized.








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