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SlowFlowPro
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Back in the days of segregation, it was typical for African-Americans traveling long distances by car to be unable to find ANY place to stop and use the bathroom or ANY hotel to rent a room for the night.

this was allowed/forced in large part by STATE action. Jim Crow was state-based segregation

it's a lot easier to coerce the market with guns

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but in practically every instance in all of human history, when people have been given the freedom to harm others, at least some have always been willing and able to do it. That isn't likely to change any time soon, which is why anti-discrimination laws aren't likely to be repealed any time soon.

look i'm not a racist, but why do you want to take the rights away from them? they're people, too

i do not agree with their beliefs, but i believe in their rights to believe/speak as they wish. why do you dislike that concept so much? why do you think that society must get in line with YOUR views of society? how did you reach enlightenment? can you show us how to have perfect thought worthy of controlling the thoughts of a nation?






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RogerTheShrubber
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Government has done a decent job forcing states to allow blacks to participate in the political arena.




Looks like government was the problem to begin with.






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SlowFlowPro
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Looks like government was the problem to begin with.

"government to fix government"






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RogerTheShrubber
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Looks like government was the problem to begin with.


"government to fix government"


Produces more government. Once hat government safety net is there, people are terrified to lose it.






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SpartyGator
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No, they're perverts. They should be ridiculed and ostracized.


Thanks for telling me about yourself






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DawgfaninCa
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The government fixed slavery, disenfrachisement of women and African-Americans, racial segregation, draconian state laws prohibiting contraception, interracial marriage and a multitude of other things. The Constitution is there to protect people from the majority of their peers by setting limits on what the majority is allowed to do.


That doesn't mean the minority automatically rules and the majority has no rights.






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Nuts4LSU
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what difference would it have made to their existing customers whether it was legal or not. If their clients were going to leave because blacks were there, they would have done so after the laws changed as well.


No, because they had nowhere to go where African-Americans couldn't. As long as there were places that segregated by race, it would have been easy for them to "punish" any business that didn't segregate by simply patronizing one that did.






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Nuts4LSU
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That doesn't mean the minority rules and the majority has no rights


That's right. That's why no one is trying to put people in jail or stop them from getting married or fire them from their job because they are heterosexual. The majority's rights are pretty much always protected because there's no one in a position to violate them.






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SlowFlowPro
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so when is polygamy un-banned?


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ForeLSU
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No, because they had nowhere to go where African-Americans couldn't.


this hypothetical band of hungry racists weren't eating at an establishment because blacks "couldn't" eat there, they were theoretically there because blacks "weren't" there. This wasn't going to change after the law changed.






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America is so fricked up now I see why not. frick yeah homos should be. Just think how far up in line you'd move if your a deaf gay black man.





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Antonio Moss
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The government fixed slavery,


Government institution

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disenfrachisement of women and African-Americans


Laws created by Government

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racial segregation


Laws created by government

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draconian state laws prohibiting contraception


Laws created by government

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interracial marriage


prohibition created by government


Notice a pattern here?






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Nuts4LSU
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so when is polygamy un-banned?


Ah, of course. Left with nowhere else to go, you went there. Sad. I thought you were smarter than that, SFP. Of course, given the subpar (for you) arguments you've made in this thread, I've assumed for a while that you were just trolling anyway. In any event, have a great day!



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Nuts4LSU
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Notice a pattern here?


Yes. Prejudice and bigotry among the majority in some states allowed them to implement state laws that discriminated against classes of people for no good reason. The federal government fixed the problem. You even blamed government where it wasn't at fault.

I don't think there was a law that said African-Americans had to be slaves. There just wasn't a law saying they couldn't be. Of course, once people had slaves, I don't doubt that the governments made laws regulating their ownership, transfer, etc. The point is that the government didn't create slavery. Private citizens and businesses did. Government just didn't stop it...until it did.

In any event, if there is wrongful discrimination, even if sanctioned by the government previously, it should be stopped by the government if that's what it takes to stop it.



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Nuts4LSU
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this hypothetical band of hungry racists weren't eating at an establishment because blacks "couldn't" eat there, they were theoretically there because blacks "weren't" there. This wasn't going to change after the law changed.


Where were they going to eat where blacks "weren't" there after segregation became illegal?






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Antonio Moss
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The point is that the government didn't create slavery.


Your knowledge of history fricking sucks.






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VOR
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re: Should homosexuality be a protected class?


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i do not agree with their beliefs, but i believe in their rights to believe/speak as they wish. why do you dislike that concept so much? why do you think that society must get in line with YOUR views of society? how did you reach enlightenment? can you show us how to have perfect thought worthy of controlling the thoughts of a nation?


Here's a question for you SFP, and I think I've asked it of you before. I was a teenager when no black people were allowed in most restaurants (there was no law requiring this policy . . . it was simply allowed), they had to sit in the balcony in the movie theater in my town and they weren't allowed to drink from the same fountain or use the same restrooms in private businesses.

If not for government action (legislative and judicial), do you believe this situation would have changed? If so, how and when?

I await your answer, sir.

My answer? We'd be even more fricked up than we are now.






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Nuts4LSU
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quote: The point is that the government didn't create slavery. Your knowledge of history fricking sucks.


So everybody was just minding their own business not enslaving anyone until one day the government said "You know what? We think it would be a good idea to kidnap people from another continent and force them to work for us for free, so y'all go on now...get you some slaves!"

Really? People who wanted slaves went out and got them. The colonial governments didn't stop them, so they kept doing it. The government didn't create slavery, private individuals did. The government just didn't stop it...at first.






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SlowFlowPro
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Left with nowhere else to go, you went there

went where? if your point is treating everyone one equally, then why aren't we treating everyone equally?

i've already asked for a list of every group who needs to be treated equally but nobody wants to tell me right now

they want to keep it nebulous and fuzzy so they can keep changing the rules over and over again

if it's such a big deal for gays (and i do feel their plight), let's be intellectually consistent here and talk about equality. why are we only focusing on equality with gays, when plenty of other groups are not allowed to marry?







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NaturalBeam
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If not for government action (legislative and judicial), do you believe this situation would have changed? If so, how and when?
Who knows, but I think the point is that now that it has changed and we live in a different dynamic where we all have equal access to shit, why do we still need the protected class in 2013?






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