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MStant1
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Ahhh, gotcha. I can see that but I don't think that will happen. Criticism from the evangelical right will be met whit, "I believe in the historical religious institution of marriage." Hopefully that will quell any consternation of the far right.




I'm not sure the evangelicals will be sold. Rand's political view on this is almost verbatim to his father's view, and evangelicals criticized Ron for it.






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GumboPot
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I'm not sure the evangelicals will be sold. Rand's political view on this is almost verbatim to his father's view, and evangelicals criticized Ron for it.


Damn that sucks. Rand will need a substantial part of the evangelical base just to keep Frothy at bay during the primaries. Hopefully he can pull more evangelical votes than his dad did. This is going to be a very interesting political strategy played out by Rand.






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Layabout
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So would he let gay married couples file federal taxes jointly and count them as a single taxable entity or not?


Those private contractual relationships ain't worth a bucket of warm spit when it comes to income taxes and inheritance taxes and the favored treatment given to married couples.






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bluestem75
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Love this quote from Rand! It's right on.

I'm a gay man. I disagree wholeheartedly with my fellow gays with the marriage movement. The truth is, the gay marriage movement is wrong. We are not discriminated against when it comes to marriage. As the law stands now, NO man is allowed to marry another man and NO woman is allowed to marry another woman. That's not discrimination.

What my fellow and I gays want is equal consideration in these areas: within the tax code, to be allowed to live with and leave our property to whomever we want, and to able to provide stable, loving homes to children we have or wish to adopt.

The fact is the tax code discriminates against single people. It discriminates even more harshly against single people who have no children.

However, my fellow gays have decided that it's more important to be loved and accepted by the genral populace than it is to actually create a fair tax code.

I don't give a flying f if you approve of me and my boyfriend/husband/partner. I could care less if you hurl insults at me. That says more about you than it does about me.

But I do want him to be able to visit me when I'm in the hospital. Perhaps we may want to adopt someday. I don't want my family cutting him out of my will because they don't like him.

These things do happen to us, but there are other legal remedies to solve these problems other than demanding that everyone else change their definition of marriage to fit what we would prefer it to be.






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TigerDat
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I have been thinking the same thing. Supposedly they want this because of tax code and other things. Well marriage was a religious thing to begin with so why don't we just amend things to be a legal union as far as government conrcerns go. Let the churches keep their marriages and then everyone can be happy.

That is of course if that is waht they really want. I believe some would be happy with that but of course there will be some that will never be satisfied.






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MStant1
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Damn that sucks. Rand will need a substantial part of the evangelical base just to keep Frothy at bay during the primaries. Hopefully he can pull more evangelical votes than his dad did. This is going to be a very interesting political strategy played out by Rand.



Who knows though. Typical republicans seem to have a double standard with Rand vs Ron. I mean look at how many supported Rand's stand on foreign policy and drones, but thought Ron was a nutter on similar issues.

It probably has to do with the fact that Sean Hannity loves Rand and hates Ron. So the team players follow suit.






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bamafan1001
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quote:They want everyone to confess and accept that marriage between gays is every bit as acceptable as marriage between a man and woman. It is


Yeah, according to you. Thats your opinion and thats OK.






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GumboPot
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It probably has to do with the fact that Sean Hannity loves Rand and hates Ron. So the team players follow suit.




God I hope not.







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GumboPot
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Hotair has picked up the topic and ALLAHPUNDIT makes some good points.









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JohnnyKilroy
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Those private contractual relationships ain't worth a bucket of warm spit when it comes to income taxes and inheritance taxes and the favored treatment given to married couples.


That can be easily remedied.






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uway
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We should make it a contract b/t any two people (non blood relatives) with SEVERE penalties for dissolution.





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ScoopAndScore
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when it comes to income taxes and inheritance taxes and the favored treatment given to married couples.

Here's the thing. I hear liberals use the argument "what's best for society" all the time. Well I think it's been proven that the traditional family is best for society as a whole. The statistics clearly bear out that children raised by a married mother and father do far better than those not raised in a traditional family household. Why wouldn't liberals be all for preferential treatment of married couples then, for the betterment of society of course? Weird.






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davesdawgs
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“I’m an old-fashioned traditionalist. I believe in the historic and religious definition of marriage,” he says. “That being said, I’m not for eliminating contracts between adults. I think there are ways to make the tax code more neutral, so it doesn’t mention marriage. Then we don’t have to redefine what marriage is; we just don’t have marriage in the tax code.”

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This is a smart and subtle way of saying that government shouldn't be in the marriage business.


He echos my sentiments I have expressed for some time on this board. Would more of our Congressmen see the wisdom in this approach.






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GoCrazyAuburn
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I think he can sell them on it if he can get ten to see that this is a step to help get TE gov't out of interfering with their religious practices. Harder said than done, but that is the angle to take for sure for him.





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junkfunky
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I sincerely hope you are smart enough to know that.








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KeyserSoze999
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“I’m an old-fashioned traditionalist. I believe in the historic and religious definition of marriage,” he says. “That being said, I’m not for eliminating contracts between adults. I think there are ways to make the tax code more neutral, so it doesn’t mention marriage. Then we don’t have to redefine what marriage is; we just don’t have marriage in the tax code.”


I'm Christian and white privileged and I approve this message






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Blue Velvet
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It probably has to do with the fact that Sean Hannity loves Rand and hates Ron. So the team players follow suit.
Talk radio and TV have played a huge part in this. You can see it on this board. Team player > principles, 'round these parts.






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imjustafatkid
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I'm not sure the evangelicals will be sold. Rand's political view on this is almost verbatim to his father's view, and evangelicals criticized Ron for it.


As a Christian who would never support gay marriage, I can honestly say I have no issues with removing marriage from the tax code and allowing civil contracts under United States law. I also don't understand why there are "benefits" to being married (tbh, I got married this past year and my wife and I actually paid more in taxes because we did). I'm fine with the tax code considering 2 contracted individuals as 2 combined single entities, and removing any distinction due to marriage. Selfishly, I would have paid less in taxes were this the case.

The problem with calling gay unions "marriage" is it will end up just like birth control with Catholic hospitals. Eventually the government will find some way to legislate to churches that they have to perform or accept gay marriages or [insert tax/loss of exempt status/other punishment here] will occur. There is no doubt in my mind this would happen.



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Layabout
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The statistics clearly bear out that children raised by a married mother and father do far better than those not raised in a traditional family household.

There are no such "statistics".






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Revelator
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There are no such "statistics".



You would be wrong. Children raised by single parents are much more likely to live in poverty and have a lower degree of education.






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