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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Who ensures that everyone provides a product or service?
Nothing. Forcing someone to do something is government oppression.






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Zed
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No, that would be government coercion.

So without currency and without central planning or coercion, would people choose to work knowing their needs would be met? I don't see that working if that's what we're talking about.






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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would people choose to work knowing their needs would be met?
Many would not.






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THRILLHO
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needs and wants, just like in our current system.



So how is it determined what "wants" people get? How do you determine which is which? Shelter would certainly be a "need", but at a certain caliber of home you're getting into "want" territory.






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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So how is it determined what "wants" people get?
Up to the individual. If they want a TV they can go out and get a tv. If they want a computer they can go out and get a computer.






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Zed
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Many would not.
The only way it would work is if you could kick people out for being lazy. A small community that had the freedom to do that could make it work IMO.






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Tigerlaff
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I guarantee that 80% of my generation would hang out a shingle and advertise blogging and social media manager.

They would play online all day and no one's complex needs would be met.






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heatom2
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What incentive would someone have for going to medical school or engineering school if they had no monetary compensation?

Why should I go through all the schooling and training just to receive the same things as a store clerk?






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foshizzle
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It differs from Communism in the fact that there is no central planning of who does what


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the knowledge that your needs would be met by people in the same situation as you


Who ensures this?







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PrimeTime Money
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There would be no way to satisfy demand.

It would fall apart quickly.

Nobody would have the incentive to work harder and increase productivity.



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CaptainBrannigan
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Ex: John Smith is a carpenter. People receive his goods from him for free. John Smith needs some wood. The woodcutter is willing to give John wood because he knows any goods he requires will be given to him for free. The woodcutter needs something to eat. The chef is willing to give the woodcutter something to eat for free because he knows that if he needs any goods, he will be given them for free.


Sounds like a barter system.






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PrimeTime Money
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Plus, how do you keep track of people who don't work?

Couldn't somebody just walk into a store and get stuff for free even though they don't produce anything in return?

Or why would somebody spend years and years going to medical school just to get the same free stuff that everybody else does?

Why wouldn't he just decide to work at a gas station instead? Then you get nobody wanting to go to medical school and then there are no doctors. People would just choose the easiest jobs possible, and there would be a ton of jobs that go unfulfilled.



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Zed
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Who ensures this?
I believe the OP realizes what he's suggesting is highly unrealistic. The only way it has a chance to work is with a small voluntary community of people inclined towards this sort of thing that was able to be selective about what individuals it allowed into the community, and able to kick people out for not working. Even in that scenario it would be difficult.






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FT
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The only way it would work is if you could kick people out for being lazy. A small community that had the freedom to do that could make it work IMO.
This.






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Iona Fan Man
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Thoughts on this ideal society?


it works as long as there is a god-like figure who will smite those who break roles

it's similar to the cyclist theory posted yesterday on the OT: Those who break the Moral order become hated and people want them to either be off the system.

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I've got a theory, of course. It's not because cyclists are annoying. It isn't even because we have a selective memory for that one stand-out annoying cyclist over the hundreds of boring, non-annoying ones (although that probably is a factor). No, my theory is that motorists hate cyclists because they think they offend the moral order.

Driving is a very moral activity – there are rules of the road, both legal and informal, and there are good and bad drivers. The whole intricate dance of the rush-hour junction only works because people know the rules and by-and-large follow them: keeping in lane; indicating properly; first her turn, now mine, now yours. Then along come cyclists, innocently following what they see are the rules of the road, but doing things that drivers aren't allowed to: overtaking queues of cars, moving at well below the speed limit or undertaking on the inside.


LINK


people who are opportunists or marketers, people who think they are intelligent because they can lie or cheat someone....need to be removed swiftly or else Utopia can not exist.






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HubbaBubba
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This honestly qualifies as Dope Smoking Dumbass Post of The Year.





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Iona Fan Man
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What incentive would someone have for going to medical school or engineering school if they had no monetary compensation?


WTF is a calling then?

Some people want to do their job.






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heatom2
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WTF is a calling then?

Some people want to do their job.


Sure, but does this constitute the majority of the professionals in high paying jobs? Or do they get in to it for the monetary compensastion/quality of life?







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PrimeTime Money
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Another problem with this is that there is no room for people to innovate.

What motivation do they have to come up with new ways to do things? New ways to be more productive?

Even in if it is a very small, selective society of people who can kick people out, there still isn't an incentive to innovate.

Capitalism means competition which breeds innovation.






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Iona Fan Man
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Nobody would have the incentive to work harder and increase productivity.


but everybody would have the incentive to gorge and indulge?


This is where I think it's easy to tell who should be citizens, and who should be banished. People who cry incentive are tax dodgers, draft dodgers, resource leeching, nightmarish litigious animals.

They are the chaos to a system, they are easy to detect and should be free to be "bad apples" elsewhere.

The military(use to) break these kinds of spirits, Men of honor they were called, fight on the front lines: God, Country, Family.....now it's me,myself, I, mistress, vice, family, country, God.

Easy to form this type society and it will work without issue as long as you keep the animals out.






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