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re: Open Carry - I have a question

Posted on 2/25/13 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 4:59 pm to
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I think the prob is, certain cops are on a power trip


I think most of the open carry proponents are the ones on power trips.

They want to:

1. Impress the clerks at the Circle-K.

2. Impress (or scare) the soccer moms.

3. "Educate" the public.

4. Act like dicks when cops show up in response to a call.
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22376 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 5:23 pm to
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Posted by dawg23 quote: I think the prob is, certain cops are on a power trip I think most of the open carry proponents are the ones on power trips. They want to: 1. Impress the clerks at the Circle-K. 2. Impress (or scare) the soccer moms. 3. "Educate" the public. 4. Act like dicks when cops show up in response to a call.


Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44046 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 7:21 am to
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I don't see how he could simply assume the OC is not a convicted felon

What???

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:17 am to
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did he commit a crime? Nope. So no need to show ID

Can't just walk around asking for folks IDs just because


Absolutley incorect. He is open-carying, which is legal, if he is not a convicted felon. In order to determine record he must be identified. I'm totally OK with asking for ID.

In fact when he refused to produce, ID I would hope the officer would detain him untill back-up arrived and they determined his identity.

I'm OK with making statements but I also want the police to do their jobs and protect the populace from imbeciles.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44046 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:58 am to
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I'm OK with making statements but I also want the police to do their jobs and protect the populace from imbeciles.

Does that mean no presumption of innocence?

Without the presumption of innocence there is no such thing as an "unreasonable search", without "unreasonable searches" we lose our 4th Amendment right, "...to be secure in their persons...against unreasonable searches".

I'm not willing to give up any 4th Amendment rights I have left.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18360 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 9:13 pm to
Open carried at the donut shop this morning on the way out to the camp. Busy, long line in small shop. Maybe 15 people. In line the older gentleman behind me taps me on my back and asks about my Glock that was on my belt. He then shows me his .38 under his over shirt. As we spoke about guns and such in line, I then notice a man (he also noticed me) at the counter with a police badge on his belt. 3 of us with guns in the Donut shop. Safest place in town this morning.

Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 10:50 pm to
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Safest place in town this morning


Posted by Lpmann3
Tucson
Member since Dec 2012
270 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 6:45 am to
Criminals don't open carry.
Posted by Howard Juneau
Cocodrie, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2218 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 7:13 am to
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Criminals don't open carry.


Neither do educated people who aren't trying to draw attention to themselves.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18360 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 9:06 am to
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Neither do educated people who aren't trying to draw attention to themselves


Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 9:06 am to
You mad
Posted by SpicyStacy
stout's fave
Member since Aug 2010
13343 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 9:22 am to
I sometimes inspect vacant properties in shady neighborhoods. Like where thugs congregate on their front porch. I'm 5 ft 100 lbs with 34 Ds. You better believe I'm open carrying to let those idiots know if you try to frick with me, you get blasted.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 9:23 am to
Preach it sister
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 9:24 am to
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 9:51 am to
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Point is, he's out of line for asking for the ID
I ask everyone I come in contact with while working a complaint for an ID. If the situation is one where they are not required to identify themselves, it doesn't mean I can't ask. I do this for several reasons, one is that I document every encounter I have with anyone. I will also let them know that I want identification for documentation purposes. I'll also ask if they mind if I run the serial numbers on their gun. I don't mind being told no but I'm gonna try and be as thourough as possible. I'm doing a job and will be as professional and respectful as possible. My credibility with the courts, my co-workers, and the public is very important in my line of work. Fine line keeping that and doing a job that many times offends people.

I see many people open carry that stare at me just waiting for me to say something to them. It almost seems that they are more alarmed by being armed than everyone else. Guess they are waiting for the attention that they seek.
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 9:53 am to
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I sometimes inspect vacant properties in shady neighborhoods. Like where thugs congregate on their front porch. I'm 5 ft 100 lbs with 34 Ds. You better believe I'm open carrying to let those idiots know if you try to frick with me, you get blasted.


I'm sorry but that's the only thing I noticed.
This post was edited on 3/3/13 at 9:54 am
Posted by SpicyStacy
stout's fave
Member since Aug 2010
13343 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 9:59 am to
oh, you notice them alright
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 10:00 am to
Hey stacy
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 10:05 am to
Kind of hard to miss. At that size you're like 30% boobs.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 10:09 am to
Prove it

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