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Freauxzen
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I love the villain in Hunchback. His motivations actually make sense.


He's probably Disney's most realistic and complicated villain. I think most are fairly one note, especially Jafar and Ursula.

I think the enemy in Beauty and the Beast is great because it's not really Gaston (Gasp!).

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And that opening sequence is pretty great. I love the movie, too.


Surprise? Ha, no.

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Really, my problems are the leads, not the gargoyles.


I'm going to make a really big Hunchback thread, we'll have that discussion then. Save the comments!






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JawjaTigah
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re: How would you rank these Disney movies?


Little Mermaid
Lion King
Aladdin
Beauty and the Beast

Ok, so no accounting for taste. I liked the singing frog in LM. Or was it a crab? Been a long time since I watched.






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Baloo
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He's probably Disney's most realistic and complicated villain.

I still think it is Scar. I think that's the reason Lion King is the best film: best villain with realistic motivations, best supporting cast/comedy relief, best sequence (Circle of Life), great songs, compelling leads, and stunning animation. It is their signature piece.






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I may be exaggerating "The Great Mouse Detective" somewhat, but I think the things that make up the Disney Renaissance are all at play here. But I still firmly stand by "Roger Rabbit". In fact if we were to go through another animation Renaissance, it wouldn't shock me if a Roger Rabbit sequel would be first up.





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Bryon Bojengles III
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Lion King is by far the best....

1.) Lion King
2.) Beauty and the Beast
3.) Aladdin
4.) Little Mermaid






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CocomoLSU
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OK, Gummi Bears sort of sucked.

You better watch your whorish mouth.






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OMLandshark
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Hunchback of Notre Dame is criminally underrated (And I know, the gargoyles, but ignore them), and is very much a classic movie in all respects. It has:

1. The Best Animation (with yes slight computer effects)
2. An underrated soundtrack - The best opening song of all time, and the Best Villain track of any Disney Film
3. A better and more well-rounded story (even though it does not follow the book, but none of these do)
4. A more mature ending



Completely agree.

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Aside from sleeping Beauty, Snow White and Pinocchio these are probably their 4 best animated films


On a side note, I really think Snow White is one of the most overrated movies ever. Sure its an incredibly important and landmark film, and film would probably be worse off without it, but it really just doesn't hold up at all. Snow White makes Ariel look like an absolute genius.



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Freauxzen
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I still think it is Scar. I think that's the reason Lion King is the best film: best villain with realistic motivations, best supporting cast/comedy relief, best sequence (Circle of Life), great songs, compelling leads, and stunning animation. It is their signature piece.



Obviously, I'd give the nod to Frollo, "Belles," and overall story.

I'd agree the supporting cast in Lion King is top notch, that's really why it's so great. I'm not totally sold on the leads.




What is interesting about this thread is where most of us sit in age (mid-late twenties into the early 30s), we grew up, I assume, with parents and siblings who adored the old guard of Disney films (and we do too, for good reason), BUT we got to Disney in the Renaissance of Animation with truly unique and great films (And your comments of the Afternoon Animation studio are spot on). That gives us a unique perspective. Animation, as an art form, was at its peak in the 80s and 90s.




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re: How would you rank these Disney movies?


1. Aladdin
2. Beauty and the Beast
3. Lion King

Have not seen LM.






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OMLandshark
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I think the enemy in Beauty and the Beast is great because it's not really Gaston (Gasp!).



...Then who is? He doesn't start off all that bad (merely an oaf) and isn't a force that doesn't have to be reckoned with until the final act I grant you, but I can't think who else would be the antagonist.






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Bryon Bojengles III
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Ok, so no accounting for taste. I liked the singing frog in LM. Or was it a crab? Been a long time since I watched.


How can anyone forget Sebastian?









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What is interesting about this thread is where most of us sit in age (mid-late twenties into the early 30s), we grew up, I assume, with parents and siblings who adored the old guard of Disney films (and we do too, for good reason), BUT we got to Disney in the Renaissance of Animation with truly unique and great films (And your comments of the Afternoon Animation studio are spot on). That gives us a unique perspective. Animation, as an art form, was at its peak in the 80s and 90s.



Honestly, our generation approaches animation much differently than the generations before us. 30 years ago, most people our age wouldn't be caught dead at an animated movie unless they had a child in tow. Now full grown men will line up for the next Pixar film. Having grown up in the animation renaissance, our generation never really aged out of it. The animation grew up along side us, with stuff on the lines of Beavis and Butthead, to something as poignant as the Toy Story franchise.

My parents still can't comprehend the fact that I like animation as a medium and can't see how animation has gotten so vulgar. Although I still think there is some bit of bias towards animation among our generation, its no longer a genre that is shied away from by others. We were very lucky to grow up during that time in animation.






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What is interesting about this thread is where most of us sit in age (mid-late twenties into the early 30s), we grew up, I assume, with parents and siblings who adored the old guard of Disney films (and we do too, for good reason), BUT we got to Disney in the Renaissance of Animation with truly unique and great films (And your comments of the Afternoon Animation studio are spot on). That gives us a unique perspective. Animation, as an art form, was at its peak in the 80s and 90s.

I was just thinking about this a minute ago. Looking back at older Disney animated movies, they're great, but IMO more for nostalgic reasons. Movies like Snow White and Pinocchio are ones that I remember fondly, but they aren't truly great films (like I would say LM, LK, B&tB, Aladdin are). I feel like maybe I'm explaining this poorly...I think they are great films, but moreso because of how they make me feel than because they are great pieces of film. I do think some (like Lady and the Tramp, for example) hold up to "newer" Disney animated films though.

Also, for someone who loves a) movies, b) animated movies, and c) Disney as much as I do, there are some films that I need to see that I skipped over. For a while, I lost interest in Disney animated movies. So stuff like Hunchback, Mulan, Lilo & Stitch, etc. are ones that I never had a desire to watch as a teenager.






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OMLandshark
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Movies like Snow White and Pinocchio are ones that I remember fondly, but they aren't truly great films


I think Pinocchio holds up extremely well. Even over Hunchback, I'd say its Disney's darkest film. I mean, this scene, Jesus: LINK



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Honestly, our generation approaches animation much differently than the generations before us. 30 years ago, most people our age wouldn't be caught dead at an animated movie unless they had a child in tow. Now full grown men will line up for the next Pixar film. Having grown up in the animation renaissance, our generation never really aged out of it. The animation grew up along side us, with stuff on the lines of Beavis and Butthead, to something as poignant as the Toy Story franchise. My parents still can't comprehend the fact that I like animation as a medium and can't see how animation has gotten so vulgar. Although I still think there is some bit of bias towards animation among our generation, its no longer a genre that is shied away from by others. We were very lucky to grow up during that time in animation.

Agreed. Also, animation has become MUCH more accessible while we grew up. It went from animated shorts (like Looney Tunes); to cartoon shows (like the Flintstones, Jetsons, Smurfs, etc.) on Saturday mornings; to primetime network and cable TV (Simpsons, South Park).

Like you said, animation is no longer "for kids." Lots of people have Simpsons, South Park, even shows like Archer in their lists of favorite/funniest shows. And movies have gone the same route in some ways. They're more aimed at families than simply the kids. Shit, I'd almost argue that movies like Shrek were borderline movies for kids anyway...lots of innuendo in there.






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re: How would you rank these Disney movies?


1. Beauty and the Beast
2. Aladdin
3. Lion King
4. Little Mermaid






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9Fiddy
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re: How would you rank these Disney movies?


1. Aladdin
2. Beauty and the Beast
3. The Lion King
4. The Little Mermaid






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Freauxzen
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re: How would you rank these Disney movies?


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Honestly, our generation approaches animation much differently than the generations before us. 30 years ago, most people our age wouldn't be caught dead at an animated movie unless they had a child in tow. Now full grown men will line up for the next Pixar film.


Hunchback s coming out March 12 on Blu Ray, yeah I'm pumped for that.

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The animation grew up along side us, with stuff on the lines of Beavis and Butthead, to something as poignant as the Toy Story franchise.


It also helps that we are a video game generation as well.







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Freauxzen
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I was just thinking about this a minute ago. Looking back at older Disney animated movies, they're great, but IMO more for nostalgic reasons. Movies like Snow White and Pinocchio are ones that I remember fondly, but they aren't truly great films (like I would say LM, LK, B&tB, Aladdin are). I feel like maybe I'm explaining this poorly...I think they are great films, but moreso because of how they make me feel than because they are great pieces of film. I do think some (like Lady and the Tramp, for example) hold up to "newer" Disney animated films though.


Sleeping Beauty is arguably a great piece of film. I would say Pinnochio is as well. Fantasia and Lady and the Tramp are as well. There are some weak ones admittedly.

Snow White was innovative because of the animation, though, and Cinderella is trite, but still well made.

But I get what you are saying.

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Also, for someone who loves a) movies, b) animated movies, and c) Disney as much as I do, there are some films that I need to see that I skipped over. For a while, I lost interest in Disney animated movies. So stuff like Hunchback, Mulan, Lilo & Stitch, etc. are ones that I never had a desire to watch as a teenager.


I don't think I ever lost the taste for animated movies, even at that time I thought they might have been too kiddie, they were always fun.






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Freauxzen
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Agreed. Also, animation has become MUCH more accessible while we grew up. It went from animated shorts (like Looney Tunes); to cartoon shows (like the Flintstones, Jetsons, Smurfs, etc.) on Saturday mornings; to primetime network and cable TV (Simpsons, South Park).


Great point.






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