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NCAA recommends ejection for targeting defenseless players
Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:19 pm
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I'm all for player safety, but this is getting ridiculous, especially this part:
I'm all for player safety, but this is getting ridiculous, especially this part:
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The proposed rule will mirror the penalty for fighting. If the foul occurs in the first half of a game, the player is ejected for the remainder of the game. If the foul occurs in the second half or overtime of a game, the player is ejected for the remainder of the game and the first half of the next contest.
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Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:21 pm to medtiger
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I'm all for player safety, but this is getting ridiculous
..and it's only gonna continue to get worse.
Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:21 pm to medtiger
No way to be fair in this. There are times where someone is not flagged and fined, then others not fined but flagged.
This post was edited on 2/13/13 at 1:22 pm
god bless americaPosted on 2/13/13 at 1:26 pm to VegasPro
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No way to be fair in this. There are times where someone is not flagged and fined, then others not fined but flagged.
This is college football...there are no fines. This will be only for hits that are flagged on the field.
Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:28 pm to medtiger
The interpretations of these hits will vary across the board.
Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:30 pm to graychef
NCAA- the new flag football league 
Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:31 pm to graychef
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The interpretations of these hits will vary across the board.
Exactly. I have no problem with an ejection for a clear, flagrant hit. Where do they draw the line though.
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Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:33 pm to medtiger
Can you imagine how 1 call can ruin a game. or a SEASON
Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:44 pm to WITNESS23
Except when Bama does it in the SEC title game
Posted on 2/13/13 at 1:49 pm to nicholastiger
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Except when Bama does it in the SEC title game
Are you defenseless if you are moving towards the play?
Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:00 pm to pvilleguru
Was Smith (Michigan) 'defenseless'? Was Clowney 'targeting' him?
There is already enough leeway in the rules for a ref to toss someone for excessive deliberate viciousness. This rule would just screw up the first 2 or 3 games of the season, then be ignored, then get pulled out at the worst possible time in a late game.
Better to just put a word in the refs' and coaches' ears in the preseason, and make it clear to both groups that assholery will merit an ejection if somebody might get hurt, and the NCAA will back up the refs in any argument.
There is already enough leeway in the rules for a ref to toss someone for excessive deliberate viciousness. This rule would just screw up the first 2 or 3 games of the season, then be ignored, then get pulled out at the worst possible time in a late game.
Better to just put a word in the refs' and coaches' ears in the preseason, and make it clear to both groups that assholery will merit an ejection if somebody might get hurt, and the NCAA will back up the refs in any argument.
Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:06 pm to medtiger
So would Loston had been ejected for the phantom hit on the USC WR even though he didn't make contact? There was a foul called and as Kirk H put it, there was intent.
Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:14 pm to VABuckeye
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The interpretations of these hits will vary across the board.
Exactly. I have no problem with an ejection for a clear, flagrant hit. Where do they draw the line though.
That would be my concern, too. Maybe a more-or-less incidental but hard helmet to helmet, which seems to get called quite a bit, should get just the PF call, and the ejection should be reserved for when it's clearly deliberate. Same deal on crossing pattern collisions -- it seems to me there's a difference between a hard hit that could get flagged because the hitter could have avoided it (at the risk of a big play against him) and a guy clearly nailing somebody who doesn't have a prayer of making a catch (or tackle). I'd be afraid that any new rule would lump those things together; better to let the refs decide and just encourage them to be tougher on the truly bad plays.
Coaches and players will go right up to the line (and a little beyond once in a while) if the line is a bright one. Any rule that codifies the 'ejection' line will just create a new standard for play, a standard nastier than what's happening now. Make them know that that line is a little vague, and it has a better chance of actually keeping the unneeded viciousness down.
Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:50 pm to tokenBoiler
This needs to be cleared by the SEC/bama league office to make sure the SEC refs know who not to call it on.
Posted on 2/13/13 at 3:21 pm to tokenBoiler
Here is an example of a hit that I think should be an ejection. It's not a particularly vicious hit but it seems the intent is clear to attack the exposed head. Kurt Coleman hit on Illinois running back
Posted on 2/13/13 at 3:30 pm to VABuckeye
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Here is an example of a hit that I think should be an ejection. It's not a particularly vicious hit but it seems the intent is clear to attack the exposed head. Kurt Coleman hit on Illinois running back
Thats borderline. Nothing wrong with the hit to the head(the QB was dragging guys forward). But the QBs knee was actually down before he made the last surge forward although its really hard to tell if Coleman could see that.
Posted on 2/13/13 at 3:50 pm to graychef
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The interpretations of these hits will vary across the board.
Based on previous ejections this will only be worse-
Ejected for a legal hit
Posted on 2/13/13 at 3:53 pm to medtiger
there really needs to be a yellow/red card system in football.
Posted on 2/13/13 at 3:58 pm to Harry Caray
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there really needs to be a yellow/red card system in football.
It wouldn't help
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