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have to face a tough test the last week of the season.
Pac12 and Big Ten says, "what tough test?"






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JDM1992
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Dr RC
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It's 20% about their champion getting screwed out of the national title game two straight years because of a perceived lack of quality wins. KSU and Okie St both could've used a CG to improve their resume and win the beauty pageant of voting in the polls.


KSU wasn't screwed out of a damn thing! They got blown out by an unranked Baylor.






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H-Town Tiger
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KSU wasn't screwed out of a damn thing! They got blown out by an unranked Baylor.


They had just as many loses as the team that won the BCS CG. Where Baylor was ranked at the time is irrelevant, the ENTIRE schedule should be factored in, this quality of lose component is a BS. Baylor was 4-5, they finished 8-5.






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Dr RC
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They had just as many loses as the team that won the BCS CG. Where Baylor was ranked at the time is irrelevant, the ENTIRE schedule should be factored in, this quality of lose component is a BS. Baylor was 4-5, they finished 8-5.




What? First off, you don't get to credit them for their bowl win in this discussion. Second, they still got blown the hell out by an unranked Baylor that finished 7-5.

Sorry but to say that loss is equal to losing a close game to an A&M that finished 10-2 with the Heisman winner is friggin asinine.

KSU was not screwed in any way shape or form this year.

Bama had the tougher schedule this year and their loss was far more excusable than KSU's.



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Is this the sign of inevitability regarding the state of the Big 12?


no its a money grab to get a game back in jerry world






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BuckeyeFan87
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NCAA rules say you need 12 teams.

I know and agree with another poster on "why should they change this now just for the Big12"

But at the same time, I don't know why the NCAA feels you must have 12 to do so. Just another example of too many rules, IMHO FWIW.






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Bama had the tougher schedule this year

...because of the SECCG. That gave a pretty mediocre schedule a huge bump. Of the six elite SEC teams, Bama had only played two, three after the SECCG. Kansas St could've used the same kind of bump from a CG as well. The difference in schedule quality was the CG.

The lack of a title game hurt their resumes. Same with Okie St, who probably DID have a tougher schedule than Bama, but could've used an extra game to make the difference more emphatic.






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H-Town Tiger
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Sorry but to say that loss is equal to losing a close game to an A&M that finished 10-2 with the Heisman winner is friggin asinine.


I never said that loss was equal, A&M was clearly better than Baylor. I do not judge teams based on "quality" of loss. To me that is friggin assinie. Now the fact they got blown out is far more relevant.

Oh and if we can't count Baylors bowl win, you certainly can't count the Heisman

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KSU was not screwed in any way shape or form this year.


maybe not, but OSU certainly did.

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Bama had the tougher schedule this year and their loss was far more excusable than KSU's


Not counting the SEC CG, Bama had what, 2 quality wins? LSU and Michigan.

If any team got screwed this year it was Florida. Of the 1 loss teams they had far and away the best SOS.






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H-Town Tiger
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But at the same time, I don't know why the NCAA feels you must have 12 to do so. Just another example of too many rules, IMHO FWIW.


because if you have 12 teams you can't play every one. Its not like they just added the rule, it was always there, Roy Kramer just took advantage of it and expanded to 12.

If the Big XII wants a CCG, they need to add 2 more teams, its pretty simple.






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BuckeyeFan87
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If the Big XII wants a CCG, they need to add 2 more teams, its pretty simple.

I already agreed with this, but it still doesn't explain why there has to be a conference member limit to hold a CCG. Unless there is some HUGE advantage/disadvantage this plays into a teams schedule.

I'm personally for more deregulation of college ball.






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H-Town Tiger
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but it still doesn't explain why there has to be a conference member limit to hold a CCG. Unless there is some HUGE advantage/disadvantage this plays into a teams schedule.


As I mentioned earlier if you have 12 or more teams, you can't play every one, so having a 1 game playoff to get a conference champ is an option. With 10 teams, you could as the Big 12 does play every one, so it is not necessary.

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I'm personally for more deregulation of college ball.


I don't think you fully understand the concept of deregulation.

It is not the government that passed a law making this requirement, the NCAA which is made up of the member schools and conferences made the rule. They can change it if they like, but they can also keep it.






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BuckeyeFan87
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As I mentioned earlier if you have 12 or more teams, you can't play every one, so having a 1 game playoff to get a conference champ is an option. With 10 teams, you could as the Big 12 does play every one, so it is not necessary.

I already agreed with this and understand the concept, but am still unsure why it matters if a team plays another team more than once a season. Seems like most every other sport you'll play the same team multiple times.

I know this isn't the government, nor do I think this is a big deal whether they end up being allowed or not, but I personally don't see why it should matter if they decide to play a CCG.






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Dr RC
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maybe not, but OSU certainly did.


I agree that Okie Light got screwed. But KState? Nope.

and a loss to a 10 win BCS team is greater than a loss to a 7 win BCS team. I don't see how that is even debatable.







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