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Posted on 1/27/13 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 7:29 pm to
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I already have a tractor and easy access to round bales of hay since someone bales some of my property and also my families property.
Well then you're ahead of the curve! You can take the tractor and make your money work even more for you/it.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 7:31 pm to
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I'm a Hereford man.
Does their lack of pigmentation around the eyes lead to a lot of pink eye and disease?
Posted by angus1838
Southeast Alabama
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:09 pm to
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l their maintenance requirements will be no more than say angus or brangus
ok what are your credentials to be able to say this? Are you a cattle rancher student or what. I have owned them and know without a doubt that it takes more to keep one up. And you say pounds is what matters in todays market? Explain why a charlais 100 pounds heavier will bring the same as an angus.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:19 pm to
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Does their lack of pigmentation around the eyes lead to a lot of pink eye and disease?
Good queation but not any issues that I've noticed.
Posted by AgGator
Member since Nov 2009
132 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:54 pm to
Sorry I dont know how to do the quote thingy.

My B.S. is in Beef science and my M.S. is in Ruminant nutrition. Also have worked on the cow crew side my whole life on ranches in Florida and spent time in on a stocker operation in Texas and a feedlot in Kansas. I do formulations for a feed company now. With respect to you having owned both of them I don't doubt that you had some that may have been poor keepers but in my experience with one ranch in particular that runs around 5000 beef masters along with plain English cattle the bos indicus influenced animal will always be more thrifty. I should have probably prefaced all this with saying especially in subtropical climates this is true. Experience along with lots of research done by universities would lead me to say that.
Also look at any sale barn or market reports and you can see that heavier calves may receive less dollars per pound but their increased amount of pounds more than offsets the price slide. A black hided calf weighing the same as a Charolais or smoke calf will probably bring more but those differing genotypes are almost never the same in terms of growth. To see a an angus weighing 100 lbs less and bringing the same amount would make me think that was a dumpy Charolais calf. Not saying it can't happen but I have sat in sale barns enough to know its the exception not the norm.

EDIT: I apologize too if any of that sounded snooty. Cattle are a huge investment and there is always something to learn in regards to good management. It just happens to be the one subject I'm pretty comfortable with this the long windedness in trying to offer some advice
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 10:02 pm
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:51 pm to
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Glad you liked our bull and he could make yall some $.
What do you mean by "our"?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:25 pm to


If you bought or dealt with high end Brahma bulls in this state from 1960 through the mid to late 80s there is a very high possibility it came one way or another from my grandfather or his stock.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43456 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 6:55 am to
so I ended up getting 2 of them. he also said I can bring them back to his place when they are ready to be bred he will let his bull handle business. In the meantime I am going to look into artificial insemination. I tried to look for people in the area that would provide a service where they receive the semen, keep it on ice, then come do the transfer when the heifer is ready, but couldnt find anything. might be a good opportunity for someone that is retired to make a few extra dollars.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 7:00 am to
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I've know several people that have raised them and I have had a couple myself. They are a heavy muscled beautiful animal that are well suited to our climate but in my experience are more prone to prolapse. I also feel,as one of the above posters, that their big size makes them not as good as other smaller breeds in terms of expense to profit which is what it's all about.



This! I have someone in my family that rasies show Beefmaster's. Great for 4H and kids. Money wise= a lost if just rasing them for market.


Think Black = more money from the market stand point!
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 7:02 am
Posted by angus1838
Southeast Alabama
Member since Jan 2012
923 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 8:24 am to
Well you are certainly qualified to answer I would like to thank you for the work that ya'll do. Unsung heros in my opinion cause we have made great strides in the cattle industry in recent years and it stems from getting the science to the producers.
Diat congrats on the purchase. I am sure you will be happy with them
Posted by cattleman
South La.
Member since Feb 2006
254 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:27 pm to
They're a great breed of cattle for this area of the country. Beefmasters were developed for 6 essentials. Temperment is one of these essentials. True breeders will cull any high strung animals. I have found then to be very prolific. But if you buy heifers let the sellers bull breed them if so desired. That's a deal and there are plenty of BM breeders who'll help you in getting started. Also about color there are now plenty of black beefmasters. Bulls are reasonably priced. Once they hit the salebarn no one will want to see what breed they are. Black is black. Also at weining time and yearling weight they are heavier than any other breed. As far as more expensive to raise, this is false. They are genetically engineered to be efficent. We raised them for years and showed them in 4-H for a long time. They are good animals. Contact BBU for more information. ( Beefmaster Breeders United )
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:34 pm to
Congrats!
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43456 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 7:37 pm to
guy brought them over today. freaked the horses out. gonna be fun watching them grow.
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