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Funky Tide 8 
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:53 am to VermilionTiger)
Ingram shouldnt have won it based on what? There was no clear cut winner that year and Ingram ran all over SEC teams, including a UF team that was 30 and 1 coming into the game. He then squashed any doubt in the NC game against the #1 rushing defense.
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craigbiggio 
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:55 am to TiGeRTeRRoR)
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Jason White over Larry Fitzgerald
This was when I stopped caring about the Heisman. Fitz was an animal that season.
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NOTORlOUSD 
Georgia Tech Fan
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Member since Sep 2010
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:59 am to craigbiggio)
I agree that Te'o didn't deserve it, but I don't like the phrase "Best Athlete". The "Best Athlete" in college football was not Manziel, it was Jadeveon Clowney. Manziel was more like an MVP.
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TenTex
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:03 am to craigbiggio)
Yeah, but Jason White had a really good off the field story! 
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H-Town Tiger 
Virginia Tech Fan
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:04 am to TenTex)
That Teo was even invited, let alone 2nd was a joke. It was a down year for the Heisman to be sure, but his season was nothing all that special, oh yeah, he had a lot of ints for a LB, yippie.
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SouljaBreauxTellEm
LSU Fan
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:11 am to NOTORlOUSD)
It is more of an MVP award in my eyes.
Of course there will always be better athletes around.
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Choupique19
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:12 am to Funky Tide 8)
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Ingram shouldnt have won it based on what?
Classic example of the "best player on the best team". Actually, just the most marketable position player with good numbers on the best team.
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OnTheBrink
Alabama Fan
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Member since Mar 2012
1802 posts
| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:14 am to H-Town Tiger)
I would like to see the days of inviting smaller school guys there (Keenum, Brennan, etc.) or not worry so much about the W-L aspect of it. This year there were plenty of guys that put up big numbers, Jordan Lynch, Kadeem Carey, Tavon Austin, and I could go on.
It has turned into the best player on the best team and I am just not a fan of that.
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craigbiggio
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:42 am to Funky Tide 8)
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Ingram shouldnt have won it based on what? There was no clear cut winner that year and Ingram ran all over SEC teams, including a UF team that was 30 and 1 coming into the game. He then squashed any doubt in the NC game against the #1 rushing defense.
Discounting bowl games, Ingram played against 2 teams whose rushing D finished in the top 50. Gerhart played against 6 teams with top 50 rush defenses.
The only statistical advantage Ingram had over Gerhart was YPC.
This post was edited on 1/18 at 9:42 am
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The Easter Bunny
Georgia Tech Fan
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Member since Jan 2005
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:45 am to KosmoCramer)
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I've heard three different guys say this now.
The real question should be what the frick were they thinking voting for Te'o this season either way
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The Easter Bunny
Georgia Tech Fan
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Member since Jan 2005
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:47 am to OnTheBrink)
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It has turned into the best player on the best team and I am just not a fan of that.
Well that's obviously not been true the last two seasons
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TigerBait2008
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Member since Jun 2008
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:56 am to Choupique19)
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Classic example of the "best player on the best team". Actually, just the most marketable position player with good numbers on the best team.
Ingram was another sob story, daddy is in prision, had to overcome so much 
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Fox Mulder 
Tulane Fan
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Member since Dec 2010
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:04 am to Funky Tide 8)
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Ingram shouldnt have won it based on what? There was no clear cut winner that year and Ingram ran all over SEC teams, including a UF team that was 30 and 1 coming into the game. He then squashed any doubt in the NC game against the #1 rushing defense.
Ndamakong Suh 's at this
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heartbreakTiger
LSU Fan
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Member since Jan 2008
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:04 am to KosmoCramer)
anyone that admits it should lose their vote.
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CtotheVrzrbck 
Oklahoma State Fan
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Member since Dec 2007
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:06 am to lsurulz1515)
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the Heisman hasn't meant something for some time now. It's unfortunate, because some great players have hoisted that trophy
Gino Toretta killed the Heisman trophy.
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Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
10674 posts
| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:14 am to Choupique19)
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Ingram shouldnt have won it based on what?
Classic example of the "best player on the best team".
Doubtful.
Classic example of starting visible player on media loved team. You could slot a lot of running backs into Ingram's role.
And Charles W. was the best player in football that year and is going to the HOF. Manning choked in his biggest games (nothing has changed...see this past weekend) while Charles excelled in The Game...and in the bowl leading his team to the national title while Manning gave us Manning face after losing to Florida once again.
This post was edited on 1/18 at 10:17 am
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Kafka 
New Orleans Saints Fan
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:40 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm)
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It is more of an MVP award in my eyes
By that criterion Eli should have won, not Fitzgerald.
It's not an MVP award, it's not a "Best Player" award, and it's certainly not a "Best Athlete" award. It's for the "outstanding" player -- whatever that means.
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Fox Mulder
Tulane Fan
Uptown
Member since Dec 2010
12682 posts
| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:41 am to Kafka)
If it were most outstanding player
Suh, Clowney and TM7 would be Heisman winners
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castorinho 
Oklahoma Fan
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Member since Nov 2010
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:49 am to TenTex)
I guess I'm the only one not to really give a frick about this.
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