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re: Just so people realize, IT AINT STUD's Offense

Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:56 am to
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:56 am to
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it's not loaded or misleading

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add all these if's and buts to try to make it seem as if its loaded.


You REALLY don't know what a loaded question is do you?

Your question via comparing different COACHES is to compare different TEAM records.

It'd be the same thing as me saying compare Oklahoma State's record while Miles was there (2001-2004 28-21) to the rest of the teams in the country to show how much he sucked compared to all the good coaches then.

This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 10:57 am
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:07 am to
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They were talking that those two guys could be the greatest ever to play college, yes it is the players, after they left they both went to shite


Again...very convenient...try try again

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They haven't won, LSU is still winning


Winning what? An SEC championship only to be stomped by another SEC team because our OFFENSE sucked.

Oh and those two teams have more NCs since 2007 than LSU...hate to break it to you.

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Tebow was going nowhere, but Florida LSU did not pay Cam enough Are really blaming our recruiters? Stupid!!


Please repost...

In English this time.
Posted by jakedel12
Dallas, Texas
Member since Nov 2006
1449 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:29 am to
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They were talking that those two guys could be the greatest ever to play college, yes it is the players, after they left they both went to shite


Again...very convenient...try try again


Convenient? This is the point

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Winning what? An SEC championship only to be stomped by another SEC team because our OFFENSE sucked.

Oh and those two teams have more NCs since 2007 than LSU...hate to break it to you.


Why not include the 2007 season?

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Tebow was going nowhere, but Florida LSU did not pay Cam enough Are really blaming our recruiters? Stupid!!


Please repost...

In English this time.


You know what I meant!
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:31 am to
This real problem with the offense is the inability to prevent defenses from stacking the box. That falls on the coaches.

There is nothing wrong with the scheme. Hell a power running game is great with 4 RBs and a dominant defense, but the lack of a medium to deep passing game hurts this offense. Defenses realize it's not risky stacking the box against LSU, when it absolutely should be. Maybe we should hire a passing game coordinator? I don't know, but until LSU is able to establish a legit deep passing game, expect the same offensive output.

I'm not talking about 350 yards passing/game. All I'm saying is we need enough of a deep passing threat to make defenses think twice about stacking the box.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:12 pm to
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Your question via comparing different COACHES is to compare different TEAM records.


im not comparing shite....i just asked a question

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It'd be the same thing as me saying compare Oklahoma State's record while Miles was there (2001-2004 28-21) to the rest of the teams in the country to show how much he sucked compared to all the good coaches then.


no its not...because i didn't ask you to compare shite.

how many teams have a better record than LSU since 2005?
Posted by shang1
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2012
621 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:27 pm to
Louisvilles quarterback put on a clinic Thursday night. The announcers said that he was interested in LSU, but Les wanted Mett. Go figure.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:30 pm to
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because i didn't ask you to compare shite.

how many teams have a better record than LSU since 2005?


This is priceless

Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:31 pm to
I not sure you know what "compare" means. i'm asking for a number...that's it. i'm not asking you to compare shite.

you're adorable
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:41 pm to
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I not sure you know what "compare" means. i'm asking for a number...that's it. i'm not asking you to compare shite.


This is AWESOME. Keep'em coming.

It's like I have to explain your own mind to you.

1. Why do you care how many wins the LSU TEAM has had since 2005? What point are you trying to prove by that question? On that's right: MILES and his accomplishments compared to what? OTHER TEAM's records during that time.
2. Therefore you are making a categorical leap trying to compare COACHING SUCCESS with TEAM SUCCESS. This categorical leap is being caused by your use of an enthymeme framed as an query leading to guess what? A LOADED QUESTION.

So if you can do it...so can I:

Can you list all the teams with a better record from 2001-2004 than Oklahoma State? Those coaches must be better than Les Miles.

My oh my, how many hidden assumptions are in that question?

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you're adorable


I know. Have you seen me?!
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:48 pm to
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Why do you care how many wins the LSU TEAM has had since 2005? What point are you trying to prove by that question?


nothing...just asking. and a little curious as to why you refuse to answer

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Therefore you are making a categorical leap trying to compare COACHING SUCCESS with TEAM SUCCESS


so the teams success and the coaches success are seperate?

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Can you list all the teams with a better record from 2001-2004 than Oklahoma State?


no, i can't
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:53 pm to
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nothing...just asking. and a little curious as to why you refuse to answer


nothing? You asked for no reason?? ...ok

How can you be curious why haven't answered the question when I've explicitly explained it to you several times in simple as well as technical terms? This is amazing.

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so the teams success and the coaches success are seperate?


Uh...when you are implicitly comparing his success to other teams with MULTIPLE coaches during that time...yeah

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no, i won't


FIFY and that's because the question I posed is retarded, much like the one you keep repeatedly asking
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:56 pm to
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FIFY and that's because the question I posed is retarded, much like the one you keep repeatedly asking


my question is much much easier to answer.

Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:58 pm to
You get pretty flustered when you can't spin things to shite on the program like you continue to do.

I probably won't get an answer but what is your main objective when all you do is trash the team?
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 12:58 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:58 pm to
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my question is much much easier to answer.


Actually, TECHNICALLY mine is as you only have to compile and compare 4 years across the board instead of 8.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 1:03 pm to
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You get pretty flustered when you can't soon things to shite on the program like you continue to do.

Uh....what?

Can someone translate this for me?
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I probably won't get an answer but what is your main objective when all you do is trash the team?


Find one post where I TRASHED the TEAM.

Why can't you blind Miles worshippers understand LES MILES is not the entirety of LSU Football?

My job is to bring balance to the altar of Les Miles. He is not Jesus, he is not perfect. He is a good but flawed coach. Do I want him gone? NO. Do I think he has cost us a NC or two? YES.

Everything doesn't have to be extreme. It is possible to have a rational non-religious view of the man.
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 1:04 pm
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 1:04 pm to
It was a typo
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 1:06 pm to
Oh ok, the point remains: Miles does not equal the program.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 1:07 pm to
Miles is the greatest coach in LSU history. the sooner you come to grips with this fact the happier you'll be.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 1:09 pm to
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Miles is the greatest coach in LSU history. the sooner you come to grips with this fact the happier you'll be.


Saban says hi. I have no problem putting Miles right underneath him though.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 1:11 pm to
Miles is a better coach at LSU then Saban was....it has also been a tougher conference since Miles has been here compared to when Saban was here. numbers don't lie
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