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re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:22 pm to Champagne
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:22 pm to Champagne
quote:Like being a top 3 offense for nearly a decade?
I'm talking about a franchise that can sustain a solid decade of excellence. THAT is what a superior NFL franchise does.
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:22 pm to eyeran
This is a bad football team. This is a mediocre franchise.
When the Owner and FO can admit this and commit to doing something about it, we will be on the road to excellence.
When the Owner and FO can admit this and commit to doing something about it, we will be on the road to excellence.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:22 pm to Champagne
quote:
That's not how good NFL franchises roll, and the Saints are NOT one of the "good" franchises. It's a mediocre record overall with a bright spot in 2009.
How many teams have had better stretches than we have since 2006? Definitely better:
Giants (who, by the way, have won 2 SBs but frequently looked like shite between)
Steelers
MAYBE better:
Colts (even though we beat them head to head in the SB, I'll give them the edge)
Packers
So, at most, 4 out of 31 teams would prefer their own outcomes over the past 6 seasons to what we accomplished.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:23 pm to Champagne
quote:
The FO has shown NO ability to put ALL of the pieces in place to build a franchise that will consistently win playoff game, after playoff game, over the course of a decade
Playoff appearances in 06, 09, 10 and 11. Wins in all appearances but 10.
Only teams I can think on that level of success in that time frame are NE, BAL, Indy, Pitt, NYG and GB.
This post was edited on 12/30/12 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:23 pm to Champagne
People need to realize that the Bucs once won a superbowl. Then they went back to being a dumpsterfire. There is nothing wrong with the OP.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:23 pm to St Augustine
10.5 wins per year over the last five (including the ONLY NFL season without a head coach) is NOT the product of a mediocre franchise.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:23 pm to Melvin
quote:And bottom 3 on defense during that same period.
Like being a top 3 offense for nearly a decade?
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:24 pm to craigbiggio
This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchis
your title makes no sense. 7 and 9 isn't bad. and a team that has quite a few wins in the playoffs and a SB since 06 is not a bad team... and it's one of the most valuable franchises
your title makes no sense. 7 and 9 isn't bad. and a team that has quite a few wins in the playoffs and a SB since 06 is not a bad team... and it's one of the most valuable franchises
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:25 pm to eyeran
I'm sorry, we might not be "superior."
Does that make us "mediocre?"
Please, someone answer me.
Does that make us "mediocre?"
Please, someone answer me.
This post was edited on 12/30/12 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:25 pm to Champagne
The Saints organization has been lauded as being a first class organization by players and coaches (current and former).
The team, this year, has been a poor one, but I fully expect 10+ wins next year with Payton back
The team, this year, has been a poor one, but I fully expect 10+ wins next year with Payton back
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:26 pm to lsufan112001
quote:
7 and 9 isn't bad
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:26 pm to eyeran
quote:
Amazing
30ppg and 400 yards every week. Offense's fault for not being all time great...
Welcome to the NFL where your offense shouldn't have to score 8 million points to win. 30ppg should get the job done without a carnival show on defense.
Meh that nfl is becoming a distant memory. Multiple, multiple times this season the offense has gone on a sustained hiatus only to pad stats late in the game. Often times how and when you score those points tells the tale of the game.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:27 pm to Champagne
There aren't enough synonyms of the word stupid to describe the OP. you could say the pats were lucky to get belichick and Brady. If this, if that. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:27 pm to LSUZombie
This is what he posted in the Falcons thread:
In his mind, a team that is 0-3 in the PO since 2006 is > a team that is 5-3 in the PO with a SB win.
quote:
Yeah, they are stupid. Dimitroff and Smith, in five years, built up a roster on both sides of the ball -- a roster good enough to get the 1 seed twice in five years -- and they are stupid. Yeah. Meanwhile in the same five years, the Saints roster is slightly improved on O and horribly awful on D.
In his mind, a team that is 0-3 in the PO since 2006 is > a team that is 5-3 in the PO with a SB win.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:27 pm to Champagne
There is a lot of trash on that defense. It has been like this since the Dome Patrol ended. These assholes on defense cost this team at least two more Super Bowls.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:27 pm to Champagne
quote:
This is a bad football team
This is a bad defense but not a completely bad football team.
quote:
a mediocre franchise
History bears this out. Can't argue with this one.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:28 pm to St Augustine
Talk about knee-jerk reactions.
We have a bad season for OBVIOUS reasons and suddenly we're a "mediocre" franchise.
Champagne, you can absolutely go frick yourself.
We have a bad season for OBVIOUS reasons and suddenly we're a "mediocre" franchise.
Champagne, you can absolutely go frick yourself.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:30 pm to UVa JD 1987
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Since 2006, Payton/Brees first season in New Orleans.. No other team in the entire fricking NFL had more wins than the Saints heading into this year.
OP wrap your little brain around that dumbass.
Since 2006, Payton/Brees first season in New Orleans.. No other team in the entire fricking NFL had more wins than the Saints heading into this year.
OP wrap your little brain around that dumbass.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:30 pm to St Augustine
quote:This is true. The offense wasn't what it has been. But it was still one of the 5 best in the league.
Meh that nfl is becoming a distant memory. Multiple, multiple times this season the offense has gone on a sustained hiatus only to pad stats late in the game. Often times how and when you score those points tells the tale of the game.
You simply can't watch the Saints this year, or the past 7 years for that matter, and decide offense is where the problems are
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:30 pm to Champagne
Also I want to add. Brees has been shite this season. Not all the blame goes on the defense.
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