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Posted on 12/18/12 at 7:43 am
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 7:43 am
I keep reading about a new "assault weapons ban" and the ties to the Newtown CT murders. However I also read the shooter left his AR-style weapon in the car and the killings were done with pistols.

What gives? Did he use the AR or did it stay in the car? Is the "assault weapons ban" proposal going to include pistols as well? Or is this "use of the AR-style gun" just a media ploy to get liberal dumbasses whipped into a frenzy and gather support?
Posted by chief420
Parkersburg,WV
Member since Apr 2009
4189 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Did he use the AR or did it stay in the car? I


He used it

quote:

Is the "assault weapons ban" proposal going to include pistols as well?


Probably not the first time around, but it will be up next I imagine

quote:

Or is this "use of the AR-style gun" just a media ploy to get liberal dumbasses whipped into a frenzy and gather support?


It is definitely that
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 7:47 am to
I would say your second thought. It is all about whipping up the frenzy and that is already in full swing......

Tougher gun laws? How about tougher nut job, monkeyass crazy profiling procedures? How about parents actually connecting with their kids and learning about them a bit more?
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:11 am to
it will be the same ban that Clinton did 20 or so years ago.

the ban expired after 10 years under Bush. the ban was on "AR" style rifles and mini sub machine guns.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9422 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:13 am to
The medical examiner said in the press conference that of the several children he did an autopsy on all were shot and killed by the AR. In addition, all of the children had been shot 3 or more times.
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:14 am to
quote:

How about parents actually connecting with their kids and learning about them a bit more?

i agree 100%

why would the mother show her "mentally unstable" son how to shoot a weapon of this magnitude?

and why weren't the weapons in a locked safe that only she knew the combination to?

quote:

monkeyass crazy profiling procedures

he didn't purchase the weapon so in this case, a screening process wouldn't have mattered.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:16 am to
Make bullets cost $100,000.00

You know if someone gets shot they deserved to die.


Ok, $5000?
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 8:22 am
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:17 am to
i know you are kidding, but i surely don't want to pay more for ammo than we already pay.

a box of hunting bullets for my rifle is $40 and that's on the low end of the spectrum.

i may see the same box cost me $80 next year.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:10 am to
I definitely saw a snapshot of the AR sitting in the trunk of the car. No idea why they would've taken it from him and put it back in the car, but I saw it there
Posted by Tigerhaven03
TexAS™
Member since Sep 2006
2917 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:13 am to
may have had a back up
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28691 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:57 am to
The other aspect of this is the large magazines. If a shooter has to reload to change weapons, their ability to continue the assault is interrupted briefly. That gives people a chance to stop it. Large clips and AR style weapons will be restricted, just as they were under the Brady Bill.

Anyone who thinks that bullheaded opposition from the NRA will stop this movement is crazy. The situation needs to be managed and limited to military hardware and we will be ok. I said this the other day and was basically branded a Communist. If you fail to view this situation in a state of reality, you will be branded as one with the crazys.

Also, the mother of the shooter was stockpiling weapons for the "inevitable social collapse." She also taught her kids how to use the weapons. This lady is just like many of us. Please, keep your guns locked up properly.

Posted by chief420
Parkersburg,WV
Member since Apr 2009
4189 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:34 am to
quote:

why would the mother show her "mentally unstable" son how to shoot a weapon of this magnitude?

and why weren't the weapons in a locked safe that only she knew the combination to?


She was trying to teach him to respect firearms and gain some confidence, doesn't make her a horrible and shitty parent IMO. Can you imagine how hard it would be to have your child committed because you thought they were so mentally ill they would do something like this??
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87530 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:37 am to
quote:

She was trying to teach him to respect firearms and gain some confidence, doesn't make her a horrible and shitty parent IMO. Can you imagine how hard it would be to have your child committed because you thought they were so mentally ill they would do something like this??
She also told a babysitter to never turn his back on the kid and some other scary warnings. No way I teach a kid like that to use guns.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:42 am to
Yeah, she definitly is in the wrong here. There is no excuse for anyone with a mentally ill child not to have their weapons under lock and key. I can't agree with the thought that she shouldn't have taught the kid how to handle a weapon safely, but never ever should those guns been in a place that he could get to them without her knowledge
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:44 am to
we are all Monday QBing this thing and i have no idea how i would act if one of my kids turns out this way.

but i would like to think there are other things out there that I can help my troubled kid with than firearms.
Posted by hashbrowns
Shitholeastan
Member since Nov 2011
2380 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:15 am to
US News Report

In this link they say he used a Bushmaster AR on the kids, the only time he used the pistol was to off himself, and left a shotgun in the car.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87530 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:18 am to
I thought the gun left in the vehicle was a shotgun?
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19283 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:18 am to
Mental kid with no physical or mental pain? Then why did he off himself? He knew something bad was coming his way
Posted by 4X4DEMON
NWLA
Member since Dec 2007
11957 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:19 am to
If he had used a mini 14 would we still be looking at the AWB?

This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 11:20 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87530 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:20 am to
Of course. Those are assault weapons silly.
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