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re: Official AR-15 thread

Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:26 pm to
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They do. LINK


WTF man, I was all over Fortis' website thinking I was just not seeing it.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:27 pm to
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There may be a few companies (Noveske, Knight's) that make a more refined product, but you're going to pay for it. My main concern is reliability, and DD, Noveske, etc. are going to be pretty much the same in that regard...excellent.


yeah, you cant really compare Noveske/Knight's and the other custom shop stuff to the others. In terms of widely available, DD and BCM are the best IMO
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:31 pm to
If I had the money I'd go DD or another high end but I'm OB and OT poor so spikes, PDA, and the others work for me.


On the subject of AR 10 what do y'all think about that DPMS lower.
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:33 pm to
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On the subject of AR 10 what do y'all think about that DPMS lower.


Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:34 pm to
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If I had the money I'd go DD or another high end


LINK

I posted this the other day. It's a DDM4 V7 and a $400 Aimpoint for $1509. That's basically a complete Daniel Defense rifle for $1100. What's your excuse now, brah?
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:35 pm to
Laid off unemployed.
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8108 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:39 pm to
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Laid off unemployed.


But starting a new job soon...at least I thought?

If not, good luck with the job search, sir.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:40 pm to
Fair enough, I'll stick with the $10 Pmags
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:42 pm to
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Quality wise, is BCM one of the better manufacturers?

Compared to lets say PSA, Spikes and Stag, would BCM be the best of the 4?
BCM is much better. Granted, those other companies you listed still make a solid product, BCM is just on a different level
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:24 pm to
Some DPSM AR-10s get good reviews actually
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:29 pm to
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On the subject of AR 10


one choice: LWRC REPR


Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:33 pm to
Came in on Friday j&t 300 blk upper

Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30646 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:36 pm to
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On the subject of AR 10 what do y'all think about that DPMS lower.


A lower is a lower, people get confused and think a brand name lower is better than a no name lower. I remember a few years back there were only like 3 companies making lowers, but magically 50 companies selling lowers. Its funny to watch people get in a hissy about lowers.

The only lower I would pay a premium for would be Knights ambi lower or a LWRC ambi lower.

Regardless of brand there is billet vs forged.

For AR10 there are different patterns. Commonly referred to as DPMS style or Armalite style. There are physical differences and the uppers are not compatible. I would build a DPMS style 308 AR, because of there ability to use pmags. Armalite is building lowers now that accomodate pmags but I think they missed the bus as there is more support for dpms style ars.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7398 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:49 pm to
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A lower is a lower, people get confused and think a brand name lower is better than a no name lower.


All lowers are not created equal. I've seen some that leave gaps and some that need a hammer to get the upper off.

None of those were DD, LWRC, etc.


Lately I've seen just as much hate for people with high end rifles as low end rifles. Some people like driving a Mercedes over a Hyundai, why does that bother people??
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted by brass2mouth
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 2:00 pm to
My AR10 will be a Mega Upper/Lower, but that LWRC is nice.
Posted by homesicktiger
High altitude hell
Member since Oct 2004
1364 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 2:32 pm to
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My AR10 will be a Mega Upper/Lower


Me too. Please let me know when/where you find any.

Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 2:34 pm to
That is one hell of a deal
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80744 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 2:58 pm to
I know. I think I probably would have added another $400 to my budget to get that one instead of the upgraded PSA model a couple weeks ago
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30646 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 3:06 pm to
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All lowers are not created equal. I've seen some that leave gaps and some that need a hammer to get the upper off.

None of those were DD, LWRC, etc.


Than that lower was out of spec, it happens. I have a lower that is in spec, but an upper from a big brand name had to hammered off of it. I ordered another big name upper and destroyed that POS big name brand upper for wasting my time. An AR was designed for combat, its spec allows for a certain amount of slop. A sloppy AR may shoot better than a tight fit ar, the accuracy is in the shooter and barrel. It has nothing to do with sloppy upper/lower fit.

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Lately I've seen just as much hate for people with high end rifles as low end rifles. Some people like driving a Mercedes over a Hyundai, why does that bother people??


I dont own any Hyundais when it comes to rifles. It just pains me to watch people buy $300+ lowers because they think they are better. Id rather help them spend $300 more on a Krieger barrel for that AR and shoot circles around people that spend $300+ for a lower.

But thats me, keep buying those expensive lowers. They sure do look cool.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7398 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 3:12 pm to
I have a stag lower.

quote:

Lower was out of spec


Kind of what i was getting at. Just because a lower is a lower, it doesn't mean the quality control of the manufacturer is the same.

And I didn't mean to come off as argumentative, just throwing out why I think people move towards the "higher end" lowers.
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 3:14 pm
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