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re: Arkansas fans were really excited about the possibility of Les Miles as HC
Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:45 pm to Lou the Jew from LSU
Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:45 pm to Lou the Jew from LSU
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If LSU is so easy to recruit too, why didn't dinardo, hallman, arnsparger, Stovall and archer have better records?
12 of our of our 23 commits are from out of state, Miles isn't sitting on his arse eating boudin balls with LA kids all day
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:50 pm to wmr
After watching this go down and hearing what both sides (AD/CLM) have said, I don't think it's out of the realm of reason to say that Les did his old bud a favor while helping himself to raise by giving the job search a jumpstart in the press.
Seriously, would anyone be talking about Arky's next coach after 8 mos of John L and a faltering program if a big name coach hadn't been rumored to be moving in ? Whether you like CLM or not,his name brings weight to an issue and many mid-tier coaches are paying attention to who else is being considered for the job, the big name helps the AD attract candidates and the money, although false, adds fuel to the fire.
Just sayin.
Seriously, would anyone be talking about Arky's next coach after 8 mos of John L and a faltering program if a big name coach hadn't been rumored to be moving in ? Whether you like CLM or not,his name brings weight to an issue and many mid-tier coaches are paying attention to who else is being considered for the job, the big name helps the AD attract candidates and the money, although false, adds fuel to the fire.
Just sayin.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:50 pm to Dan
have any of you LSU fans thought this might have been a Quid pro qou thing?
Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:54 pm to HawgAlude
They still haven't grasped that we didn't offer Les, so lets not ask too much of them.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:55 pm to wmr
Why would any other fanbase not want Les Miles as their head coach? He has had unparalleled success at LSU. Could he reproduce that success elsewhere? Maybe not to the level he has, but I think the Miles formula is a winning one wherever he may go.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:59 pm to ArmyHogs
I don't believe that Arkansas officially offered Miles. I think there was something, enough for Miles and his agent to use to get more money out of us.
I don't think Arkansas ever really tried to lure Miles away, because it would be ludicrous for Arkansas to actually try to pull it off. I think Arkansas is a good gig and they'll get a good coach.
The Arkansas fans who say they don't want Miles as their coach are absolutely stupid.
I don't think Arkansas ever really tried to lure Miles away, because it would be ludicrous for Arkansas to actually try to pull it off. I think Arkansas is a good gig and they'll get a good coach.
The Arkansas fans who say they don't want Miles as their coach are absolutely stupid.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:00 pm to HawgAlude
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Quid pro qou
Wat?
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:03 pm to Dan
It's not a diss towards Les. We really don't want him as the Hogs HC. He wouldn't be able to provide the same spark at Arkansas like he does LSU. That's where the Okie st references come in. He is a great coach, but not for the Hogs
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:11 pm to ArmyHogs
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It's not a diss towards Les. We really don't want him as the Hogs HC. He wouldn't be able to provide the same spark at Arkansas like he does LSU. That's where the Okie st references come in. He is a great coach, but not for the Hogs
I think the thing is that we're wondering what type of coach y'all think fits there at Arky. I mean, many of your fans are acting like this is a pristine, coveted coaching job that people will climb over themselves to get. When, in reality, you've had a year to get someone, and the Nutt to interim, to douchebag Petrino, to Johnelle train betrays a very sordid truth about the coaching position there.
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:17 pm to ArmyHogs
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They still haven't grasped that we didn't offer Les, so lets not ask too much of them.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:18 pm to HawgAlude
Damn, HawgAlude, you should know better. It's "Quid Preaux Queaux".
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:19 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I think the thing is that we're wondering what type of coach y'all think fits there at Arky.
It's been explained a thousand times on here- we feel that Les is better suited for somewhere that is already well established. We need more of a builder type coach. Les has done a good job at LSU, did okay at OSU. We're more like OSU than LSU. etc etc etc etc etc.
I'm wondering why LSU fans care so much. We don't want your coach- shouldn't you be happy about that?
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:20 pm to ArmyHogs
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That's where the Okie st references come in.
What was the reference, good or bad? OK state blew nuts with a losing record every year but 1 until Miles.
1990– 4–7 (2–5)
1991– 0–10–1 (0–6–1)
1992– 4–6–1 (2–4–1)
1993– 3–8 (0–7)
1994– 3–7–1 (0–6–1)
1995– 4–8 (2–5)
1996– 5–6 (2–6)
1997– 8–4 (5–3) — Alamo Bowl
1998– 5–6 (3–5)
1999– 5–6 (3–5)
2000– 3–8 (1–7)
2001– 4–7 (2–6) Miles takes over
2002– 8–5 (5–3) — Houston Bowl
2003– 9–4 (5–3) — Cotton Bowl
2004– 7–5 (4–4) — Alamo Bowl
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:21 pm to ArmyHogs
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He is a great coach, but not for the Hogs
this is where your argument falls apart. I had the same discussion yesterday.
Why not for the Hogs? You think he can't recruit for Arky? At OSU he recruited Texas. At LSU he recruits LA, MS, AL, FL, GA, TX, Cali, SC
Isn't that what Arky needs? Someone who can lock the 4-5 major players in Arky up and go get 4 stars in other states???
Isn't that always the Hogs problem? Recruiting. But one of the best recruiters in the country wouldn't work at Arky?
ok. Im fine with it- I want him here for as long as he can and wants to be. He wasn't ever going to seriously consider any offer made if made. JMO
But those saying they wouldn't want him are clueless. Any program that is not a top10 consistent program should want him, he'd be a upgrade
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:22 pm to piggilicious
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It's been explained a thousand times on here-
Unfortunately, I can't stay on the board all day, so I've missed it.
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we feel that Les is better suited for somewhere that is already well established. We need more of a builder type coach.
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We're more like OSU than LSU. etc etc etc etc etc.
Makes sense. Thanks.
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I'm wondering why LSU fans care so much.
Just curiosity for me. We play y'all every year. I can't speak for others.
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We don't want your coach- shouldn't you be happy about that?
Sure.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:27 pm to piggilicious
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I'm wondering why LSU fans care so much
cause it's a message board and no true LSU fan doesn't enjoy a coaching search....it's what we did every 4 years.....before Les Miles of course
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:30 pm to Mo Jeaux
I think the point is that Arkansas is not going to produce enough instate talent year in and year out to fully feed a program. Because of that top 10 recruiting classes are few and far between regardless of who is the HC. I don't feel like Les would be able to be as successful as he's been at LSU in Fayetteville. It's just a different animal. At Arkansas a coach had better be able to out scheme people and that has not been his strong suit.
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:31 pm to stapuffmarshy
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You think he can't recruit for Arky? At OSU he recruited Texas
And, at OSU, he averaged 7 wins per season.
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At LSU he recruits LA, MS, AL, FL, GA, TX, Cali, SC
But the majority of his success recruiting originates in Louisiana. Fact. That goes away in Arkansas.
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Isn't that what Arky needs? Someone who can lock the 4-5 major players in Arky up and go get 4 stars in other states???
Was he getting a ton of 4 star players at OSU?
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But one of the best recruiters in the country wouldn't work at Arky?
Recruiting at Arkansas =/= recruiting at Louisiana. Do you think Mack Brown could pull in top 10 classes at Arkansas just cause he does it at Texas?
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But those saying they wouldn't want him are clueless. Any program that is not a top10 consistent program should want him, he'd be a upgrade
Disagree. I'd give him a chance if he ever had good QBs. But he doesn't. And he won't have the luxury of a short drive to Houston and tons of talent in his home state if he were in Arkansas. Those are facts. They don't disqualify him as being a great coach. But they are impediments to any coach's success at Arkansas, just like they are at OSU. At OSU he avg'd 7 wins. At Arkansas, he'd likely avg around 7 wins. Not good enough.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:36 pm to wmr
if Les Miles had the record he has at any school other than LSU...y'alls panties would be moist at the thought of him coaching your team.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:38 pm to ArmyHogs
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They still haven't grasped that we didn't offer Les, so lets not ask too much of them.
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