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re: How close is it right now between Manning and Brady for this years MVP?
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:36 pm to bomber77
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:36 pm to bomber77
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No the dumbest thing is you agreeing with me then 5 minutes later disagreeing and calling it the dumbest thing youve ever seen.
Except that did not happen. I was agreeing with the overall sentiment and have made that point before that he should not be in the discussion. Perhaps I should have slowed down to point out that saying he isn't close is without a doubt the most laughable opinion ever given on this board and you have some pretty stiff competition in that category.
And if you don't think the voters have their collective eye on drew Brees then you are a fool. They're waiting to see what happens in his next 3 games (brutal stretch that many dont believe, myself included, he'll be able to come out of 3-0) and if he wins those games while playing at his current level he will be at the top of the list
I agree with Vicks kennel club to a point ("he's fricking awesome but his numbers are behind the other contenders") however he's not looking at how drastically drew has cut the gap in those numbers over the last 5 weeks.
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Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:37 pm to TulaneTigerFan
I guess thats a matter of opinion
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:37 pm to TulaneTigerFan
If a guy doesn't win an MVP while taking his team to the playoffs without multiple coaches, management, and a defense with similar stats to the other candidates he never will.
It all remains to be seen.
It all remains to be seen.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:38 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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Did I just get served by the biggest 19 year old pats fan in Louisiana?
Have you been watching the green wave this year?
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:42 pm to wildtigercat93
Why you gotta be so mean bro? I'm drunk in Fayetteville right now about to watch our tigers wreck shop
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:42 pm to DelU249
Yeah, we suck
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:44 pm to DelU249
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Except that did not happen.
Yes it did.
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Perhaps I should have slowed down to point out that saying he isn't close is without a doubt the most laughable opinion ever given on this board and you have some pretty stiff competition in that category.
The point like I said was "right now"
If the vote was taken right now Brees wouldnt be close to winning the MVP.
Thats alright though, You just have a hard time being objective. I have the same problem sometimes.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:45 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Nothing wrong with that
Wish we could remember how to tackle though
Wish we could remember how to tackle though
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:46 pm to St Augustine
Peyton's on a completely different team that was anemic on offense last year and it looks like he might as well be throwing the ball to Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison. You cannot overlook what he has done. And I'm not ready to applaud drew's season until its over because as it stands the saints have no room for error and could be out of the playoff hunt in 2 weeks, god forbid. Your post kind of just Assumes the saints win out. They're 5-5 and while as a saints fan that feels great, it's really not impressive...yet
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:47 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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Yeah, we suck
Haven't been blown out in awhile though. Im loving the week to week improvement
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:53 pm to bomber77
It's really not a matter of being objective. Drew wouldn't get votes right now only because his team is 5-5. So it's really not a matter of numbers because if the saints were 7-3 he'd be the favorite right now. The same 4 guys fluctuate year to year and week to week so a mid season tally is a frivolous endeavor. I remember when everyone was saying Peyton has lost it in week 3 and in week 5 he was the best QB in the league.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 2:30 pm to DelU249
Mannings to lose. He's tossing to D Thomas, Eric Decker, and Brandon frickin Stokley, who's old as shite. He's doing the most with the least.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 2:32 pm to southernelite
Decker/Thomas/Stokley >>>> Alderick Robinson/Josh Morgan/Santana Moss
Posted on 11/23/12 at 2:33 pm to southernelite
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Mannings to lose
At this point yes
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He's tossing to D Thomas, Eric Decker, and Brandon frickin Stokley, who's old as shite
Demaryius Thomas is awesome
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He's doing the most with the least.
No. He has an awesome defense, a top flight wideout and before his injury a proven back. Rodgers is throwing to Randall Cobb and jordy Nelson, an overrated TE and no runningback to speak of in a tougher division
This post was edited on 11/23/12 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 11/23/12 at 3:05 pm to Elleshoe
Peyton is still the clear favorite
Posted on 11/23/12 at 3:08 pm to DelU249
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Demaryius Thomas is awesome
Posted on 11/23/12 at 3:22 pm to VerlanderBEAST
That would be funny except it's true. First round pick who put up solid seasons with tebow at QB. Also this is only his third year which generally is where you see a WR breakout. He is averaging a ridiculous 16 yards per reception. He is 6th in receiving yards, 8th in yards per catch and is doing this despite being 13th in receptions
This post was edited on 11/23/12 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 11/23/12 at 4:34 pm to St Augustine
Manning's to lose. coming back from neck surgery, a new philosophy, players, and adapting to his limitations all while being a top qb is nuts.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 4:41 pm to Jcorye1
Drew Brees shouldn't be rewarded for players and coaches being suspended
Let me throw in Alex Smith. Check his passer rating and get back to me
Let me throw in Alex Smith. Check his passer rating and get back to me
Posted on 11/23/12 at 4:45 pm to DelU249
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I agree with Vicks kennel club to a point
Most people do.
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however he's not looking at how drastically drew has cut the gap in those numbers over the last 5 weeks.
The first four weeks have to be held against him. Brees has been Brees for most of the year, but Peyton has simply been more impressive. Peyton has been sick as frick in nine games this year while leading a new team and coming off neck surgery. FWIW, I am Peyton dick sucker, but you would be foolish to not give him the MVP is the season ended today.
If Brees passes him and the Saints win out, then sure he can win it, but the question is right now.
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