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How close is it right now between Manning and Brady for this years MVP?
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:05 am
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:05 am
Im calling it just about a dead tie right now.
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Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:06 am to bomber77
Let peyton win the MVPs and Brady the SBs like the good ole days
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:11 am to bomber77
Drew Brees should be ahead of them for MVP by far.
Brees has his team at .500 and climbing without his coach or a defense
Brees has his team at .500 and climbing without his coach or a defense
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:12 am to mylsuhat
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Drew Brees should be ahead of them for MVP by far.
:AndHereWeGo:
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:15 am to mylsuhat
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Drew Brees should be ahead of them for MVP by far.
Noooooooope.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:17 am to boom roasted
right now I'd rank em:
Brady
Brees
Manning
Brady
Brees
Manning
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:17 am to mylsuhat
quote:
Drew Brees should be ahead of them for MVP by far.
Brees has his team at .500 and climbing without his coach or a defense
Yep.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:18 am to bomber77
RGIII for MVP
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:18 am to mylsuhat
quote:
Drew Brees should be ahead of them for MVP by far.
Brees isnt close right now.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:19 am to bomber77
Manning CBPOY & MVP
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:20 am to bomber77
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Brees isnt close right now.
:AndHereWeReallyGo:
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:20 am to bomber77
No he's not but of the saints win out he's a lock.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:20 am to bomber77
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Brees isnt close right now.
based on what? You're personal beliefs? frick the fact that his stats are similar, if not better, than the other 2.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:21 am to mylsuhat
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Drew Brees should be ahead of them for MVP by far.
Brees has his team at .500 and climbing without his coach or a defense
You have to be shitting me.
Rodgers, Brady, and Manning are all having better seasons than Brees. All three are ahead in passing rating. Two out of three in YPA. All three in less picks thrown. All three in completion percentage.
Brees is clearly not the front runner. He is clearly one of the four best QB's in the NFL, but there is no fricking way he is the MVP.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:23 am to Elleshoe
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frick the fact that his stats are similar, if not better, than the other 2.
Have you even compared their numbers? Brees clearly has worse stats than the other three elite QB's.
There is no reason to go into team stats because they are inaccurate way of measuring a player's worth, but yeah, the Saints are also the shittiest team of the bunch, which will further damage his chances that should not exist.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:24 am to Elleshoe
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based on what? You're personal beliefs? frick the fact that his stats are similar, if not better, than the other 2.
His stats stink compared to Rodgers, Manning and Brady. Even RGIII has a higher QB rating. Im just saying, Brees is great but so far this year he's just not in the hunt.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:27 am to mylsuhat
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Brees has his team at .500 and climbing without his coach
Brees has the NFL COY
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:28 am to bomber77
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Even RGIII has a higher QB rating
You say that like its a slight against Brees. RGIII is one of the top in the league in passer rating. shite if he keeps it up and the Redskins somehow make the playoffs I'd be ok with RGIII winning MVP
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:28 am to bomber77
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His stats stink compared to Rodgers, Manning and Brady
Brees:
28TD
9INT
3,066 yards
QBR: 99.8
Brady:
24TD
3INT
3,299 yards
QBR: 105.0
Manning:
24TD
7INT
2,975 yards
QBR: 106.2
Rodgers:
27TD
6INT
2,619 yards
QBR: 107.3
yeah, you're right. Compared to those 3 his stats fricking suck. Dude, you're ignorant on this topic. But that's ok. You were just educated. I don't think Brees will win it but to say he's not even close to those guys is retarded.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 11:34 am to Elleshoe
Elleshoe, look at stats that correlate with success at the QB position. Yards are pretty terrible and QBR factors in "clutch", so it pretty hard to make a determination of how worthwhile it even is.
Passer rating and YPA have much higher correlation with winning than those stats, and these meaningful show that Brees is behind.
I also like how you selectively left out most of the stats where Brees is trailing. Brees has an advantage in volume, but not in inefficiency so far. He is still fricking awesome, but not the MVP. His numbers are still very good, but not the best.
Passer rating and YPA have much higher correlation with winning than those stats, and these meaningful show that Brees is behind.
I also like how you selectively left out most of the stats where Brees is trailing. Brees has an advantage in volume, but not in inefficiency so far. He is still fricking awesome, but not the MVP. His numbers are still very good, but not the best.
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