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gatorhata9
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Dallas, TX
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Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco

If a player catches a TD and it looks like it might get overturned, can the coach throw the challenge flag, take the 15 yard penalty, and keep the booth from reviewing? I don't know what he would be wanting to review but does that matter? Seems like a hole in an already stupid rule if it's possible.


Tiger1242
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Member since Jul 2011
23953 posts

re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
Like the coach of the team that scored?
No the rules there so you can't gain an advantage by throwing an illegal challenge.

Dumb rule though


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Pedro
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re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
I would imagine there's a stipulation to keep things like that in check.


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Elleshoe
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re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco

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eta: maybe I'm confused by what happened. Someone break it down
This post was edited on 11/22 at 6:50 pm


gatorhata9
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Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
No I think making the play non-reviewable because a coach prematurely throws a challenge flag is a stupid rule.


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H-Town Tiger
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re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
I think you guy's are out thinking this too much.


gatorhata9
UCLA Fan
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
21643 posts

re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
Oh I absolutely am but that's how my mind works


STEVED00
North Carolina St. Fan
Metairie, LA
Member since May 2007
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re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
So what's the NFLs explanation if the trindon holiday fiasco from a couple wks ago?


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Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
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eta: maybe I'm confused by what happened. Someone break it down


1) Houston runner was tackled, then got up and ran to end zone. Ruling on the field was TD.

2) All scoring plays are automatically reviewed. The Lion coach did not know this and threw the challenge flag.

3) By rule, this is an unsportsmanlike penalty - 15 yard penalty and loss of the right for the play to be reviewed.


The Eric
LSU Fan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
14315 posts

re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
Not really sure how the NFL would define it as unsportsmanlike.

Terrible rule. Just pick up the flag and say its already being reviewed and you don't need to throw a red flag. Or if you must punish them then just take their challenge. No reason to not review it.


Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
4427 posts

re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
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Terrible rule.


I agree. It's incredibly harsh. At worst, it should be a delay of game penalty, and charge them with the challenge.


lsumatt
LSU Fan
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12584 posts

re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
I think the original post is a good one. By the letter of this stupid rule, why couldn't the scoring team throw a challenge flag to avoid the play being challenged? Technically wouldn't that be the case?

And what advantage did Detroit gain by throwing a flag?


ctalati32
Georgia Tech Fan
Chicago, Il
Member since Sep 2007
3182 posts

re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
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By the letter of this stupid rule, why couldn't the scoring team throw a challenge flag to avoid the play being challenged? Technically wouldn't that be the case?



Because the rule doesn't stop a review from happening. It prevents the team from throwing a challenge flag illegally from benefitting from a challenge.

In this case the Lions couldn't benefit so no review was done. If the Texans had challenged they would be flagged and it could have been reviewed and would have been overturned.
This post was edited on 11/22 at 8:35 pm


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H-Town Tiger
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Member since Nov 2003
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re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
quote:

By the letter of this stupid rule, why couldn't the scoring team throw a challenge flag to avoid the play being challenged?


Why would you challenge a play you scored on? Would take a lot of fore thought to say, next time we score and it looks like they could over turn the play, I'll throw the flag real fast before the booth has time to review. Sounds pretty far fetched. It was a fluke play, maybe they will change the rule in the off season. That's about it.


KosmoCramer
Ohio State Fan
Member since Dec 2007
50595 posts

re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
I want a coach to throw a challenge flag in a worthless late game TD this weekend when their own team scores to just exacerbate this dumbass rule.


DirtyE
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2008
610 posts

re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
On a side note, if (1) you know the opposing team is out of timeouts and (2) you know that all scoring plays are reviewed and (3) you know in your heart that your knee touched the ground, then you go out of bounds on the 1 and you get away with everything.


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JG77056
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Member since Sep 2010
7071 posts

re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
I'll tell you why you throw the challenge flag on a play you scored on in this crazy hypothetiical. What if you think the timekeeper ran time off the clock after the score?


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beaver
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re: Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
was not a "fluke" play...it happened last week, fricking over the Falcons


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