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Why do DBs never get called out for dumb picks?
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:25 am
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:25 am
Last night was the most recent example of a defensive back making an interception that hurts their team, but they get patted on the back for doing it.
Trufant from Washington makes the pick at his own 8 yard line on a 4th and 4 play with 1:45 left in the game and Stanford holding onto two timeouts. Stanford was at the 34 yard line.
If Washington doesn't get the cheap first down on the offsides on third down on the next series, it could have gotten really interesting with Stanford getting the ball back with just under a minute in great great field position. If he hadn't made the pick, they'd be punting from the 40 instead of the 15.
Why does the DB not get called out for not simply batting the ball down? That catch cost his team over 25 yards all for his own glory of getting the interception in a game that not yet in hand.
Trufant from Washington makes the pick at his own 8 yard line on a 4th and 4 play with 1:45 left in the game and Stanford holding onto two timeouts. Stanford was at the 34 yard line.
If Washington doesn't get the cheap first down on the offsides on third down on the next series, it could have gotten really interesting with Stanford getting the ball back with just under a minute in great great field position. If he hadn't made the pick, they'd be punting from the 40 instead of the 15.
Why does the DB not get called out for not simply batting the ball down? That catch cost his team over 25 yards all for his own glory of getting the interception in a game that not yet in hand.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:27 am to Tigerpaul1969
It's instinct man. The game was over at that point anyway. I sure as hell wouldn't pass up a chance to record a pick
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:29 am to Tigerpaul1969
Who's responsibility is it to call him out? I'm sure his coaches will say nothing to him about it.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:30 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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The game was over at that point anyway.
That is not correct. There was 1:45 left on the clock and Stanford had two timeouts. As I already explained, if Stanford's DL hadn't had the horrible offside on 3rd and 5 and gotten the stop, they would have gotten the ball around midfield with just under a minute.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:30 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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The game was over at that point anyway
No it wasn't. UW would have had to punt if not for the offsides a couple plays later.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:30 am to Tigerpaul1969
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Trufant from Washington makes the pick at his own 8 yard line on a 4th and 4 play with 1:45 left in the game and Stanford holding onto two timeouts. Stanford was at the 34 yard line.
Yeah, I was wondering why that was never talked about. Great athletic play by him, no doubt. But if he would have had batted it down, it would have been more beneficial.
I'm sure his mind was going a thousand miles a minute at that point though and his only focus was not letting Toilolo catch it. And what better way to do that than catch it yourself?
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:30 am to Tigerpaul1969
Yea, ESPN was calling it the game sealing play. Which is pretty dumb. The penalty sealed the deal.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:31 am to floridatigah
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Who's responsibility is it to call him out?
Well, there are people that are paid to tell you about what's going on while you're watching the game.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:32 am to floridatigah
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I'm sure his coaches will say nothing to him about it.
To me, it's all about having game awareness. If, as a DB, you realize before the play starts that any incomplete pass will essentially win the game, then you know instinctively to bat the ball down.
What if the pick had been at the 2? Things would have gotten much more interesting.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:33 am to ProjectP2294
Wasn't watching the game. Usually announcers fall over themselves trying to sound smart and point things like that out.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:33 am to Tigerpaul1969
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Why does the DB not get called out for not simply batting the ball down?
if he tried to bat it down and accidentally tipped it up (or bounced it off his leg) and it turned into a catch, he would never hear the end of it.
if you have a clean pick - TAKE IT.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:33 am to Tigerpaul1969
Actually, this is similar to the Green Bay play. If Jennings had simply thrown the ball down to the ground, then there would have been no controversy and Green Bay would have won.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:34 am to Tigerpaul1969
And if that Titans player had just caught the Lions hail mary instead of knocking it down...
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:35 am to jcole4lsu
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if he tried to bat it down and accidentally tipped it up (or bounced it off his leg) and it turned into a catch, he would never hear the end of it.
It was on the sidelines. Just knock it way out of bounds.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:38 am to Tigerpaul1969
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Just knock it way out of bounds.
yes because its super easy to just knock it down while twisting in mid air.
the player did the right thing, secured victory for his team. anything else is just trying to get "cute".
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:38 am to jcole4lsu
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yes because its super easy to just knock it down while twisting in mid air.
Jalen Collins thinks it is.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:39 am to Brettesaurus Rex
This was asked to MD Jennings on the radio after the play with Golden Tate. If he had just batted the ball down GB would have won and this whole debacle would never have happened.
His response was simple, the game is so fast that in that moment you are working mostly on muscle memory. It is just the way you have always played, instinct is to catch the football if you think you can.
His response was simple, the game is so fast that in that moment you are working mostly on muscle memory. It is just the way you have always played, instinct is to catch the football if you think you can.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:43 am to ProjectP2294
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Yeah, I was wondering why that was never talked about. Great athletic play by him, no doubt. But if he would have had batted it down, it would have been more beneficial.
And if in trying to bat it down, it ricochets and a Stanford player catches it?
ETA: His decision to intercept the pass was the correct one, regardless of the outcome of the game (and yes, I'm aware that his team won).
This post was edited on 9/28/12 at 10:45 am
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:44 am to TexasTiger1185
The only reason why I think this doesnt apply to the UW DB is because the pass was taylor made for being batted away. It was just floating through the air and he had all day to think about it. If there was ever a chance to bat away an interception, it was that one. It wont get any easier than that.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 10:45 am to Tigerpaul1969
If you're all alone and it's coming to you, sure, bat it down. But if you have a receiver within 5 yards of you, catch it. Don't take a chance of knocking it right into his arms. The pick was the smart move in this case.
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