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Andy Staples SI Power Rankings/Last year's game v. this year
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:09 pm
So, Andy Staples at SI just came out with his weekly power rankings and dropped us three spots to No. 5. Fine, whatever. We'll get to prove ourselves over the course of the next few weeks after the Towson game. But something he said caught my eye:
This contained a link to last year's box score.
So, the funny part was that last year's box score was not really much different and really wasn't any better than this year's (other than the score obviously). I know stats don't win games, but he brought it up and I thought this was interesting.
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Don't give me the LSU-Auburn-is-always-a-close-game excuse, either. Care to peruse last year's box score?
This contained a link to last year's box score.
So, the funny part was that last year's box score was not really much different and really wasn't any better than this year's (other than the score obviously). I know stats don't win games, but he brought it up and I thought this was interesting.
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_______________2011___________2012
First downs...LSU-23;AU-18.......LSU-15;AU-9
Rush yds......LSU-174;AU-87......LSU-182;AU-86
Pass yds......LSU-219;AU-161.....LSU-169;AU-97
Total yds.....LSU-393;AU-248.....LSU-351;AU-183
ToP.........LSU-30:35;AU-29:25...LSU-33:11;AU-26:49
Penalties....LSU-5/60;AU-7/51....LSU-9/80;AU-5/37
3d down cnv..LSU-3/8;AU-4/12.....LSU-6/18;AU-2/12
TOs............LSU-0;AU-2...............LSU-2;AU-3
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:16 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Exactly. I think this team still has potential to be better than last year. We needed a wake up call. We also need to control the dang ball. It would have been a similar score to last year if we never let auburn back into the game with those turnovers.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:16 pm to Tigerpaul1969
More than twice the number of 3rd downs faced means we were getting our asses kicked on 1st & 2nd down. Beyond that, we were converting less of those opportunities this year compared to last on 3rd down.
Playcalling. He can't read half the field. He has to scan all the way to one side to the other. We don't give him half field reads. Because we don't throw routes over the middle or give receivers deep crosses.
Don't give me the crap about protection because that's a scheme issue as well. You can screen a guy, run the delay draw, nevermind chip and/or double-team a kid off the edge and get far better protection.
Its scheme asking him to read one side or the other, and then its scheme with protection in not giving our lesser personnel the help they need to make their parts of the play successful.
It all comes back to coaching.
Playcalling. He can't read half the field. He has to scan all the way to one side to the other. We don't give him half field reads. Because we don't throw routes over the middle or give receivers deep crosses.
Don't give me the crap about protection because that's a scheme issue as well. You can screen a guy, run the delay draw, nevermind chip and/or double-team a kid off the edge and get far better protection.
Its scheme asking him to read one side or the other, and then its scheme with protection in not giving our lesser personnel the help they need to make their parts of the play successful.
It all comes back to coaching.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:19 pm to Sev09
Exactly. That Auburn game last year was 7-3 with about 4 or 5 minutes left in the half. We then hit lightning in a bottle twice on those two sideline TD passes to Randle from each QB to make it 21-3 at the half. Then, Auburn imploded in the third quarter, handing us 14 points with the fumbled kickoff and the Ron Brooks pick six. We may just have to win games the "old-fashioned" way this year: "we UURRRRNNNN them."
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:21 pm to GFunk
I remember that Auburn couldn't move the ball on our defense, and I knew that penalties and turnovers slowed down our offense, but I was shocked Sunday night when I heard that LSU had 8 or 9 first downs in the first quarter, and then went the 2nd and 3rd quarters without picking up a first down. I don't care where the field position is, you can't go 2 and a half quarters without a first down.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:23 pm to Tigerpaul1969
quote:
So, the funny part was that last year's box score was not really much different and really wasn't any better than this year's (other than the score obviously). I know stats don't win games, but he brought it up and I thought this was interesting.
Things that leap out from a purely statistical standpoint(this score does not capture the effects of Auburn's motivational advantage - coach and Copelan, nor the fact that Auburn's crowd was as good as I've seen over there in a while):
Neither team could convert on 3rd down (in either game), trending down from 2012.
Auburn tightened the TO margin, but still lost the battle (and the war).
LSU penalties spiked, Auburn's abated.
LSU increased its slight ToP advantage.
Shocked that LSU rushed slightly more and passed more-than-slightly less, yardage-wise.
Auburn's offense just didn't hold their end up in the game. The exploitation of our fumble notwithstanding, Aubbies should be arguing that their offense lost the game, rather than our offense winning it (and that would be supportable, somewhat).
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:24 pm to GFunk
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It all comes back to coaching.
broken fricking record on this board
damn some of you are sad little lost souls
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:25 pm to Ace Midnight
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Auburn's motivational advantage - coach and Copelan
I'm not denying that Auburn coaches overplayed the Copeland statements, but Copeland didn't make that statement this year. He said it last year, and what he said was factual. Jarvis Landry made the Aubbies curl up into the fetal postion and quit last year.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:28 pm to Choupique19
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I'm not denying that Auburn coaches overplayed the Copeland statements, but Copeland didn't make that statement this year. He said it last year, and what he said was factual. Jarvis Landry made the Aubbies curl up into the fetal postion and quit last year.
I know this - but the stupid quote circulated in the press all during game week.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:33 pm to Choupique19
GFunk is right and I am a Miles supporter. But I have said it in many threads. Our passing game is not hard to defend because of route selection. And we never run any kind of screens other than the wide reciever slips to slow down the outside rush.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:33 pm to Ace Midnight
Well the whole point of the OP was to point out that Andy Staples wanted to use last year's box score as an indication of how different last year's performance was than this year's, but it did exactly the opposite.
I think the main difference is that last year's offense wasn't that great, but it was outrageously efficient. I think at one point we were scoring TDs on like 75-80% of our red zone tries. We've got to start figuring out a way to get the ball in the end zone when we get the chance. If we do that, we'll be fine.
I think the main difference is that last year's offense wasn't that great, but it was outrageously efficient. I think at one point we were scoring TDs on like 75-80% of our red zone tries. We've got to start figuring out a way to get the ball in the end zone when we get the chance. If we do that, we'll be fine.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:36 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Well they can start by not fumbling or throwng sill picks.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:55 pm to Tigerpaul1969
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We've got to start figuring out a way to get the ball in the end zone when we get the chance. If we do that, we'll be fine.
Mett himself has negated 3 scoring opportunities by throwing 2 picks at the goalline, and now the fumble on the 2. This team would be averaging 41 or 42 points a game if we just got those 3 TDs back.
He's already much better at throwing the ball away. The second fumble wasn't a ball security issue - it was a great play by the Auburn defender. However, he should have gotten the ball out (either to a target or away) because of the blocking scheme on that play. These problems are coachable and the kid doesn't lose his head.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 12:18 am to Ace Midnight
quote:We hit two bombs to Randle last year, OBJ dropped one this year. Otherwise, pretty similar numbers...except on the scoreboard.
Shocked that LSU rushed slightly more and passed more-than-slightly less, yardage-wise.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 12:27 am to Ace Midnight
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and now the fumble on the 2
Anyone else hear the refs botched the fumble? I read something about Copeland saying he had it, Mett confirmed it, and Miles alluded to it in a press conference.
Can anyone confirm?
This post was edited on 9/28/12 at 12:28 am
Posted on 9/28/12 at 12:29 am to Tigerpaul1969
quote:You should think to check that claim against what is published in the media guide before posting.
I think the main difference is that last year's offense wasn't that great,
2011 O is 2nd only to CLM's 2007 squad in all time scoring offense.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 12:58 am to Tigerpaul1969
Funny thing is we demolish Washington who beasts Stanford who beat USC.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 1:04 am to Mayhawman
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all time scoring offense
Credit the defense and special teams.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 1:09 am to Tigerpaul1969
This game was a good punch in the face for the team. Much like we as a person figure out who we are after getting punched in the face, so will this team.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 1:31 am to jmarto1
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Much like we as a person figure out who we are after getting punched in the face, so will this team.
What are you doing? You know the first rule of Fight Club!
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