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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:36 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:36 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:yep. another mythical beast to add to the collection
Don't forget about the spiders the size of dogs showing up.
Giant Ice Spiders
Dire Wolves
Giants
Mammoths
Fire Dragons
Sea Dragons
Ice Dragons
Stone Dragons
Kraken
Giant Elk
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Aurochs - Large relatives of the bull. They are frequently used as a symbol of size, strength, and stupidity. An aurochs was used as a mount by the mythical Clarence Crabb as a display of his prowess.
Basilisks - Venomous creatures that infest the jungles of Yi Ti.
Bloodflies - Found in the east, they are bee-sized bloodsuckers.
Centaurs - Are believed in, existing in myths and legend.
Direwolves - Relatives of the wolf, but unlike their real-world equivalent, they are much larger and stronger than regular wolves. The are capable of reaching the size of a pony when fully grown. They are almost never seen south of the Wall.
Dragons - Ferocious, magical creatures, dragons are not native to Westeros, but were brought to the continent by the Targaryens. They died out over one hundred years ago, and are thought to be extinct by the people of Westeros.
Firewyrms - Dragon-like creatures.
Krakens - Huge squids said to be able to pull down whaling ships. They are largely considered a myth.
Lizard-lions - Massive, swamp-dwelling reptiles found in the Neck, these creatures are most likely large crocodilians.
Mammoths - Inhabit the far north. They are used as mounts by Giants.
Manticores - Small poisonous creatures from the islands of the Jade Sea, its sting is fatal to humans.
Ravens - Physically similar to common ravens of Earth, ravens in Westeros are used to carry messages between castles. The maester of each castle usually tends to its stock of ravens. Maesters raise a breed of large, white ravens at the Citadel that are said to be more intelligent. Ravens sometimes imitate human speech like parrots.
Shadowcats - Large predatory cats with black fur and white stripes who seem to be native to mountainous regions. Their pelts are prized.
Sphinxes - Mythical creatures, with the body of an animal and the head of a human.
Unicorns - Large goat-like animals, with a long single horn on its head. Believed to live on Skagos.
Wyverns - A wyvern is a legendary winged creature with a dragon's head, reptilian body, two legs (sometimes none), and a barbed tail.
Zorses - Black and white-striped horses, most likely similar to zebras, brought over and used as mounts by some foreigners in Westeros.
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Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:38 pm to Ash Williams
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and why would the cave have to keep out the others?
Totally didn't think of this. That's got to be proof that the CotF oppose the WW. I mean, the damn cave is protected to keep them out and they just sit there waiting to get in to get to the CotF. Gotta be opposing each other.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:48 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Totally didn't think of this. That's got to be proof that the CotF oppose the WW. I mean, the damn cave is protected to keep them out and they just sit there waiting to get in to get to the CotF. Gotta be opposing each other.
also, Coldhands saved Sam, gilly, and the baby from the others and the wights
Posted on 4/22/13 at 6:52 pm to Ash Williams
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if the others (aka white walkers) and their zombie wights cant get south of the wall, isnt the biggest threat to the realm The Horn of Joramun?
This is rumored to be the case. I have not seen anything definitive to suggest it. In any case, there is rumored to be a horn (Horn of Winter) which will bring down the wall. Mance threatens to use it if he cannot breech the wall. What sense does that make?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 6:54 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Mance threatens to use it if he cannot breech the wall. What sense does that make?
I think that was his bluff. He wanted the Night's Watch to think he had the horn and scare them into letting him through. My guess.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 6:58 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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I think that was his bluff. He wanted the Night's Watch to think he had the horn and scare them into letting him through. My guess.
sounds about right.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:18 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Anyway, the theory goes that they're trying to figure out how to hatch the dragons egg that was given to them (the faceless men, aka Jaqen H'Ghar).
***response to question in bookreader thread***
***response to question in bookreader thread***
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:22 pm to BleedPurpleGold
I think that is a pretty good theory. Definitely has to do with dragons I'd say
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:25 pm to Methuselah
Well its 99.999% Jaqen. The dragons egg part fits because of Balon's strange death and Euron's (too) perfect timing in arriving on Pyke right as his father is killed/dies.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:25 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
It's time for another edition of what the hell is going on in here. This time we take a look at pages 135-162. I now took the time to note page numbers next to the theory for some convenience although some theories are much more fleshed out than others:
The Tyrells will abandon Tommen for Aegon[perhaps opening the gates of KL] (135)
Argument over who is in better position btw Varys, Tyrion, and Petyr. (135-136)
Dany lands in the North-Tommen remains in power (136)
Dany lands in Dorne, Tommen and Myrcella are fricked (136)
Dany lands in the Iron Islands (136)
Little Finger will try to kill Rickon which will lead to Sansa killing LF (136)
The Stark crypt has ties to the Great Other (136)
Loras Tyrell is unharmed; Aurane Waters lies (136/142)
Arya's first faceless kill is using Varys to kill Kevan (136) wut
Sansa will fail to avenge her family; LF is too smart for her (136)
Good book suggestions for those who like ASOIAF (138)
Mel wrote Pink Letter; Jon and stannis unite to take North; Rickon shows up; Howland Reed shows up; Howland leads Jon to Lyanna's tomb and unveils either a hidden sword or hidden letter written by Ned (138)
Jeyne's mom was a maegi that used a potion on Robb to make him make bad decisions...(140)
End game is men vs Others (141)
Jon is ice (Stark) and Fire (Targ) and thus he is the end game (141)
End will result in 7 independent kingdoms again (141)
Arya will be the most badass faceless man if she learns to properly warg (142)
unCat will release Brienne and Jamie because she promised Brienne she would not stop her from going after Stannis when the time came (145)
Tyrion will end up as hand no matter who is the king (145)
Oberyn poisoned Tywin before Tyrion killed him (146)
LOTR v ASOIAF (146)
Kevan poisoned Tywin (148)
Tysaha poisoned Tywin; Tysha is Shae? (148) [Crackpipe theory if I ever saw one]
Varys sister Serra married Ilyrio; proimised to restore Blackfyre to the throne (149)
Varys had Eddard executed, not LF (149)
FSU band played GOT intro music (150) -no link=theory
Bloodraven isn't evil, just loyal to the Targs (151)
By end of book 6, Aegon/Varys will hold KL, LF holds the North, Wall will fall, Dany will be led into a Varys trap (154)
Varys has glamoured himself to hide his purple eyes (155)
Varys is Bloodraven warged into a runaway unsullied (155) [more crackpipe]
Jamie and Cersei are Targ Bastards in detail (159)
Jorah becomes Lord Commander of the Night's Watch as per his father's dying wish; Jon returns Longclaw to its rightful owner (161)
Lady Dustin is pro-Stark in detail (161)
Mance wrote the pink letter with some details (162)
CarsonRN also posted a gif on page 138 and 139 that sums up this thread perfectly:
The Tyrells will abandon Tommen for Aegon[perhaps opening the gates of KL] (135)
Argument over who is in better position btw Varys, Tyrion, and Petyr. (135-136)
Dany lands in the North-Tommen remains in power (136)
Dany lands in Dorne, Tommen and Myrcella are fricked (136)
Dany lands in the Iron Islands (136)
Little Finger will try to kill Rickon which will lead to Sansa killing LF (136)
The Stark crypt has ties to the Great Other (136)
Loras Tyrell is unharmed; Aurane Waters lies (136/142)
Arya's first faceless kill is using Varys to kill Kevan (136) wut
Sansa will fail to avenge her family; LF is too smart for her (136)
Good book suggestions for those who like ASOIAF (138)
Mel wrote Pink Letter; Jon and stannis unite to take North; Rickon shows up; Howland Reed shows up; Howland leads Jon to Lyanna's tomb and unveils either a hidden sword or hidden letter written by Ned (138)
Jeyne's mom was a maegi that used a potion on Robb to make him make bad decisions...(140)
End game is men vs Others (141)
Jon is ice (Stark) and Fire (Targ) and thus he is the end game (141)
End will result in 7 independent kingdoms again (141)
Arya will be the most badass faceless man if she learns to properly warg (142)
unCat will release Brienne and Jamie because she promised Brienne she would not stop her from going after Stannis when the time came (145)
Tyrion will end up as hand no matter who is the king (145)
Oberyn poisoned Tywin before Tyrion killed him (146)
LOTR v ASOIAF (146)
Kevan poisoned Tywin (148)
Tysaha poisoned Tywin; Tysha is Shae? (148) [Crackpipe theory if I ever saw one]
Varys sister Serra married Ilyrio; proimised to restore Blackfyre to the throne (149)
Varys had Eddard executed, not LF (149)
FSU band played GOT intro music (150) -no link=theory
Bloodraven isn't evil, just loyal to the Targs (151)
By end of book 6, Aegon/Varys will hold KL, LF holds the North, Wall will fall, Dany will be led into a Varys trap (154)
Varys has glamoured himself to hide his purple eyes (155)
Varys is Bloodraven warged into a runaway unsullied (155) [more crackpipe]
Jamie and Cersei are Targ Bastards in detail (159)
Jorah becomes Lord Commander of the Night's Watch as per his father's dying wish; Jon returns Longclaw to its rightful owner (161)
Lady Dustin is pro-Stark in detail (161)
Mance wrote the pink letter with some details (162)
CarsonRN also posted a gif on page 138 and 139 that sums up this thread perfectly:
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:28 pm to saintsfan92612
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:32 pm to saintsfan92612
So much crackpipe in that summary
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:38 pm to saintsfan92612
God some of these are fricking gold.
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Varys is Bloodraven warged into a runaway unsullied (155) [more crackpipe]
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:53 pm to manwich
His was in the book reader thread, but thought it would be better here as a crackpot theory.
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You're wrong: she turns into Aerys. I'm starting to buy into the Crackpot theory that Cersei and Jaime are Aerys' children, not Tyrion. It was a coin flip: Jaime landed on greatness, and Cersei madness. Plus it would make Jaime's mostly cursed life make sense as a kinslayer, and help develop his character, not to mention pretty much every action Cersei has taken since Joffrey's death.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:54 pm to saintsfan92612
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:06 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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if the others (aka white walkers) and their zombie wights cant get south
I was wondering about that. In Cotter Pyke's letter too Jon, he says that there are dead things in the water near Eastwatch. What if the Others and their controlled wrights are doing an end around and flanking the Wall; by walking under water(kinda like in the first Pirates of the Caribbean). Not a large group but enough to attack Castle Black from the south and open up the Wall for the rest of them.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:09 pm to ornagestorm
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Not a large group but enough to attack Castle Black from the south and open up the Wall for the rest of them.
Well at that point they might as well attack Eastwatch and open it there. It has a gate too.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:28 pm to BleedPurpleGold
So I was just reading the Wiki on "The Long Night." Do we think actual darkness will fall over Westeros again? The legend says that the sun left for a generation and massive famine occurred as a result. I think it would be cool as hell if there was nothing but the moon for an entire book, although I can see that as getting annoying after awhile.
Btw, for some reason I always thought the AA legend was an eastern one. According ti the Wiki his is Westerosi legend because he's the one that drove back the original WW advance. For some reason I always pictured him in Essos.
Btw, for some reason I always thought the AA legend was an eastern one. According ti the Wiki his is Westerosi legend because he's the one that drove back the original WW advance. For some reason I always pictured him in Essos.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:16 am to BleedPurpleGold
From the Wiki:
quote:
Old Nan declares them to be cold dead things, hating all life, but in an email to the comic-book artist Tommy Patterson GRRM recently wrote:
“'The Others are not dead. They are strange, beautiful… think, oh… the Sidhe made of ice, something like that… a different sort of life… inhuman, elegant, dangerous.'
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:58 am to BleedPurpleGold
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“'The Others are not dead. They are strange, beautiful… think, oh… the Sidhe made of ice, something like that… a different sort of life… inhuman, elegant, dangerous.'
So if the others are not dead, that means that ColdHands is probably the only "thinking" zombie wight
because we know coldhands was alive at some point
and the other wights seem to not have any thought processes at all
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