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re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread

Posted on 11/27/12 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 11/27/12 at 6:18 pm to
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Does Reddit know about this?


No idea. I don't peruse Reddit much, but if I had to guess, they knew about it before I did.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28418 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 7:05 pm to
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So...Theo and Sagna aren't in the 2013 Arsenal calendar...


Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 7:28 pm to
Ugh, Can we change the names there to

quote:

Gervinho and Ramsey aren't in the 2013 Arsenal calendar


Please?

ETA: I'd even trade both of them to keep one of Sagna or Theo.
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 10:42 am to
Bild is reporting we might activate Götze's buyout clause which expires in July...
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 10:47 am to
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Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 10:55 am to
37 million euros? I can't see us coming close
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:04 am to
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37 million euros?


That is about 30 million pounds. fricking do it.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:08 am to
Thats supposedly the buyout, I admit I'm not sure how that works, do you have to pay the buyout + a transfer fee?


Also...
quote:

Arsenal players not included in Arsenal's 2013 calendar and will thus all exit the club during 2013: Lukasz Fabianski, Vita Mannone, Abou Diaby, Bacary Sagna, Laurent Koscielny, Sebastien Squillaci, Johan Djourou, Carl Jenkinson, Tomas Rosicky, Francis Coquelin, Andrey Arshavin, Theo Walcott, Gervinho, Marouane Chamakh.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 11:15 am
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:15 am to
No, a minimum fee release clause (aka buyout clause) is a clause in a player's contract which sets a minimum fee that a club must bid in able to buy that player. If a club bids the minimum fee set in a player's contract in an initial payment, his club cannot block the bid and must allow the bidder to talk to the player.

Fun fact: Neymar's clause with Santos is $79M.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 11:16 am
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:22 am to
Hmm.. so

Player A release clause 30 mil

We bid 25 mil, nothing can happen without the player & owning club's consent? or nothing at all.

We bid 30 mil, the owning club has no say in the matter and we can open up contract negotiations with Player A?

Player B has no release clause

We bid anywhere from 5 to 50 mil, owning club has to approve bid before we can start negotiations with player?

Tell me if any of this is wrong plox
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:25 am to
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Player A release clause 30 mil We bid 25 mil, nothing can happen without the player & owning club's consent? or nothing at all.

If the club wants to sell for 25M, they can accept the bid, but they don't HAVE to.

quote:

We bid 30 mil, the owning club has no say in the matter and we can open up contract negotiations with Player A?

Correct. Player A can void the deal if he wants to by not signing a contract, but the club must let Arsenal negotiate once the clause is met.

quote:

Player B has no release clause. We bid anywhere from 5 to 50 mil, owning club has to approve bid before we can start negotiations with player?

Yep.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:09 am to
What a-hole keeps putting Arsenal on FSC Plus.
Posted by ATLienTiger
NOLA
Member since Oct 2006
26845 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 2:39 am to
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i don't get that shite
Posted by Wideman
Arlington, Virginia
Member since Jul 2005
11721 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 8:46 am to
Oh well... The guys that do radio for Arsenal Player are... Entertaining. They are nuts.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:49 am to
yikes
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:49 am to
This team is just not good enough. We had close to our best 11 out there and we got worked by Swansea. It's not Gervinho's fault. It's not Ramsey's fault. This system and this style is simply not working.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:53 am to
There's no movement or anything incisive happening when Arsenal has the ball.

Once Arteta/Cazorla/Wilshere hit the first line of defense, the ball just gets passed back or out to the wings. They don't try to complete any 1-2 or combination play through the middle. Our best chances come from speculative crosses from the wings. It's really shite football.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:56 am to
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Arteta/Cazorla/Wilshere


And this is supposedly our best midfield. This is the worst Arsenal team Wenger's ever had. It's littered with full internationals and talented individual players, yet we can't string two forward passes together at all. I think the focus on defensive rigidity has taken a lot of fluidity from our play. We should go back to pressing high up the pitch, rather running back and facing the game head on. We clearly can't counter-attack.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:03 am to
They countered pretty well in the first part of the season, and that seems to have gone to shite.

I don't understand the need to substitute Podolski every single game. Why take off one of your most dangerous players leaving your attack more impotent?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:09 am to
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They countered pretty well in the first part of the season, and that seems to have gone to shite.



It was really only the Liverpool game, and that was because Pool's midfield that game was in disarray. There isn't another game where we broke from defense to attack at breakneck speed. Not Man City, not Southampton, not Chelsea, not Man U, not Stoke, not Sunderland. So we've never really been able to counterattack with this side.
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