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Don't let this happen to Louisiana......Audobon.

Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:03 am
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:03 am






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The piping plover is a bird that barely even ranges to the Outer Banks of NC.

The liberal Audobon Society has taken the freedoms away from visitors and residets of Hatteras Island.

They kill more thant they save, as seen by this video.

I am sure that with its wetlands and delta, that you folks are experiencing more than we are, but now we cannot even drive to the beach in most places.


They overreach their bounds and do more harm than good.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
50019 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:09 am to
I didnt watch the whole video but some of their arguments make no sense...

"how do they know what's native to here" - really? thats pretty damn easy



"killing in the name of conservation makes no sense" - yes it does, if not there would be over population and result in killing
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87512 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:16 am to
Are they closing the beaches totally, or just for vehicles.

They mad because varmints are being killed? Hmmm, that's why I like Delta waterfowl. KILL THE VARMINTS!

Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40523 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:16 am to
If it were up them the Dinosaurs would still be jogging up and down I 95.



The NPS has closedover 70% of all beach access. The Piping Plover doesn't even migrate this far south. It is a midwestern and northeaster bird.


Audobon wants to shut down all beaches.




As far as your "killing in the name of conservation" comment....doesn't make much sense.
........

Take the gator out of the swamp and have fun with your nutria pest problems.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87512 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:18 am to
quote:

As far as your "killing in the name of conservation" comment....doesn't make much sense.
........

Take the gator out of the swamp and have fun with your nutria pest problems
We want birds. We don't want nutria. It's pretty simple.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40523 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:19 am to
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Are they closing the beaches totally, or just for vehicles.





NPS drives on the beaches all day...even in the 'closed off' portions.


How is my truck, which is less than 8 ft wide going to hurt a nest which already has a 75 yard wide berth?




Driving on the outer banks has gone on for years.

You'd have to walk 4 miles in 'sugar' sand to get there.



When the sun goes down, they NPS is driving, setting traps...but we can't drive along the beach and fish?


Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87512 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:20 am to
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How is my truck, which is less than 8 ft wide going to hurt a nest which already has a 75 yard wide berth?
Are you saying there is no chance of driving over a nest?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:21 am to
quote:

As far as your "killing in the name of conservation" comment....doesn't make much sense.
........

Take the gator out of the swamp and have fun with your nutria pest problems


What the hell do alligators, which are managed, have to do with this bird?
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40523 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:22 am to
quote:

We want birds. We don't want nutria. It's pretty simple.



yes because ALL predators eat what the NPS want them to.
They have a town hall meeting with the fox and tell him, 'hey, just eat the varmints but not the birds"

Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
50019 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:22 am to
The alligators suck at nutria control

There were a shite load of them everywhere then the state started offering $4/tail

Now seeing a nutria is a rare occasion for me
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87512 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:23 am to
quote:

yes because ALL predators eat what the NPS want them to.
They have a town hall meeting with the fox and tell him, 'hey, just eat the varmints but not the birds"
The fox is eating the eggs. Either we are not communicating, or you just don't get it.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40523 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:25 am to
yes....you cracked the case!


they are only eating the eggs....that's it. nothing else. in fact, if you wikipedia the fox...it only eats piping plover eggs.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40823 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:26 am to
I see what you're saying... it does seem like a land/power grab by the park service.

You got to fight... for your right...
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87512 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:35 am to
quote:

they are only eating the eggs....that's it. nothing else. in fact, if you wikipedia the fox...it only eats piping plover eggs.
I'm not following. Care to explain?
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40523 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:53 am to
quote:

I'm not following. Care to explain?




Sorry, kid....but there is a lot that you don't follow. It requires applied comprehension...something that you haven't shown since this thread started.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87512 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Sorry, kid....but there is a lot that you don't follow. It requires applied comprehension...something that you haven't shown since this thread started.
Good luck with your endeavor.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9320 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 12:20 pm to
There are very few locations where one can drive to or on the beach in La. Nowhere on Grand Isle. Fourchon has been blocked off for years. Rutherford Beach and Holly Beach in SW La and you can see all the trash left behind by slobs. I don't have any trouble limiting vehicle access for habitat preservation or environmental concerns. Park and walk to the beach with your poles. People have to do it everywhere.

As to the predator control, we've screwed up the balance by killing off all the big predators everywhere. Some of their solutions seem stupid, and may be ill advised, but they are trying to restore the original situation.
Posted by nhassl1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
1934 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:24 pm to
i blame it on the squatches. they like fried eggs i hear.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9320 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:59 pm to
Clearly, f-ing squatches have proliferated since humans killed off all the black panthers, their only natural predator.

I am relatively certain you are not allowed to drive on the beach in Alabama or Florida. Methinks this protest is a bit overblown. I heard some classic "my grandaddy used to do it, so I should be able to also" comments. Some folks on here used to shoot 10-15 ducks with lead; does that means it has to continue forever?
The only portion of the beach that is public property in La is the part that gets covered by the highest tide of the season. Everything up to that is usually privately owned, and they do not want you driving on their stuff.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 2:09 pm to
Only place off the top of my head I know you can drive on is Elmers Island. I remember driving on Fourchon when I was young, but not in years.
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