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re: The "New" Bats: Do you enjoy baseball more now than before??

Posted on 4/11/12 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by Tigerlair78
Franklinton
Member since Aug 2011
127 posts
Posted on 4/11/12 at 5:05 pm to
I despise these watered down bats.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14661 posts
Posted on 4/11/12 at 6:01 pm to
I think the reasons behind the bat change were bogus and maybe they went too far with the changes. However, I think it adds more strategy to the game. You have to manufacture runs now where you used to be able to just send your gorilla to the plate and tell him to swing away. I know most people like to see offense but if it gets too one-sided then I think you start to lose the essential nature of baseball.
Posted by bobbyleewilliams
Tigertown
Member since Feb 2010
8266 posts
Posted on 4/11/12 at 6:49 pm to
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I despise these watered down bats.


And the sickly sound they make when in contact with the baseball!
Posted by kjanchild
Member since Jan 2005
3950 posts
Posted on 4/11/12 at 6:57 pm to
Ruined the game!
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 4/11/12 at 8:47 pm to
Does the Pope shite in the woods?
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 4/11/12 at 11:09 pm to
We may as well switch to wood bats. If we are gonna take it this far we may as well go all the way. This has hurt the game of high school and college baseball in my opinion. If it wasn't so expensive most teams should start moving in their fences.
Posted by lucaslsu
LSU!
Member since Oct 2007
8444 posts
Posted on 4/11/12 at 11:21 pm to
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I enjoy winning. If LSU goes to Omaha playing small ball, I could care less.


So you still have a level of care left, go on...
Posted by C-GAR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2012
666 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 1:26 am to
No, most definitely not. While I loved the bats of the 90's and gorilla ball, it was just so much fun and excitement at times, I realize they did diminish the game a little too much and removed the emphasis of other facets of the game, in particular strategy. With that said, I agree with most on here that the NCAA has gone way too far with the news bats and their cores. I would like to see it somewhere in between the two extremes, probably closer to the more watered down versions we are using now, but not nearly as dull and tiny of sweet spots as the current bats. Essentially, I agree with the points of the majority who have posted in this thread thus far. I love great pitching, defense and the utilization of well planned and executed strategy, but I am still a huge fan of the potential to score big at any time, to a certain extent. I think the new bats have eliminated the latter of these aspects, and I am not a fan nor do I approve (not that my opinion means shitake, obviously). I think they need to reverse their decision to utilize the current bats, and beef them back up a touch. The potential for big offensive outtings is what makes collegiate baseball so exciting, and that is all but gone.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 7:34 am to
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I do wish we went back to the 2009 bats though.


or at least somewhere in the middle.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40025 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 7:46 am to
Well, I haven't gotten to see a high school game this year yet so don't have much info to compare it to. The few college games I have seen have been fairly enjoyable to watch. Last nights game wasn't the best to watch but it does go back to a basic in baseball that if you don't throw strikes, you'll lose . I have been around a lot of baseball for the younger ones over the last 5 years and don't particularly like what all the juiced up bats have done at that age. It selects for big overweight unathletic kids that just can stand there and crush the ball. I don't mean this in a bad way as I am guessing from
your post you have a bigger kid, but I just prefer watching athletes play. I enjoy watching outfielders that can run and make plays all over the field instead of big obese guys all over the place because they can stand still and hit homers.
Posted by MetTiger
Member since Oct 2007
1213 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:42 am to
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It selects for big overweight unathletic kids that just can stand there and crush the ball.


You hit the nail on the head about that as per youth travel ball. To me, there is a total disconnect in the USA about coordinating the game as it pertains to player development and keeping the game consistent across all levels, from the MLB to college to HS to youth ball.

That's why I think the answer is to look at the MLB and from a summmary standpoint, try to make the bat formulas fit the MLB homer to at bat ratios all the way down to youth baseball. It should be around two homers per 9 innings for both teams. That would provide enough excitement on any level, while not having a slugfest.

You are so right, go to any 12 and under tournament and the super live bats they are using coupled with overweight kids...some are hitting homers like every other at bat with the 200ft fences. If any level needed dumbed down bats, it's 12 and under. This would teach kids how to hit for average, and also keep the ball in play more helping out defensive work.

It's all about balance, and providing the option of ALL tools of the game. I maintain that ball over the fence is a powerful dynamic because it cannot be defended by a position player. If a pitcher doesn't have to worry about the long ball anymore, than changes the whole dynamic of the game that began with Babe Ruth in modern times. (btw, in the 1920s, it was the long ball that allowed the Yankees to call their new, huge stadium "The House that Ruth Built", so I rest my case)

Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:46 am to


Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40025 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:55 am to
A few doesn't bother me. 1st and 3rd basemen are generally big. When nearly every player on the field is overweight, that isn't baseball to me.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40025 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:56 am to
good post. You are so right. The 12 and under travel baseball game is a different animal these days.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 10:07 am to
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40025 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 10:08 am to
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12976 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

A few doesn't bother me


What was the last season when LSU had more than one big overweight hitter. The last one I can think of was Kyle Koeneman, and he had what, three at bats on the season?

I'd like to see the college average of homeers a little over one and a half a game.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2541 posts
Posted on 4/14/12 at 10:32 am to
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What was the last season when LSU had more than one big overweight hitter. The last one I can think of was Kyle Koeneman, and he had what, three at bats on the season?


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