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Former NFL scout: Mo Claiborne has a learning disability

Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:15 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46374 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:15 pm
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Everyone I have talked to tells me that Claiborne has great character and is a great kid. He knows and understands his disability and uses all the resources that LSU has available to control it and to help him get by in the classroom. When it comes to football he puts in extra time to learn and understand his assignments and it is not a problem. Will he need reps? Probably, but no more than the usual rookie would need. In saying that, Claiborne’s test score was NOT a true indicator of his intelligence. He can and does learn.


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What I suspect happened is a club drafting after 5 leaked the test score to try and scare off teams in the top 5 from drafting Claiborne.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:20 pm to
Mike Florio breathlessly banging out a few hundred words on that this morning reeks of Guilbeau/Rosetta "I don't care if the story's good or bad, as long as I get out first & it makes people click my links" mentality.
Posted by LSUtiger17
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
3092 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:23 pm to
I was in a class with Mo last year and sat right behind him. There were around 10-12 football players in the class. He sounded intelligent and was very responsible. He was the leader of all of the players in the class and they all listened to him too. He's obviously not stupid, as anyone that has heard him on an interview or has watched him play can recognize. He may have a learning disability, but it won't affect how he plays. He's always played smart, and although his Wonderlic score sucks, I'd be willing to bet that he's smarter than half of the DBs in the draft.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:29 pm to
Put this out there now. Kenny Hilliard also struggles with a learning disability as well. He found a great tutor and has really progressed as I understand it.

So if and when you hear idiocy like this again, you'll know its not some made up excuse.

Florio should be caned in Singapore for his irresponsible journalism.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

He's obviously not stupid, as anyone that has heard him on an interview or has watched him play can recognize.

How can you judge a person's intelligence by the way they speak?
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46374 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

He's obviously not stupid, as anyone that has heard him on an interview


right, which is why the score surprised me. glad that there's some context to it now.

for those who've not heard Mo speak:

Mo after his 2INT game vs MSU (2010)

Mo after declaring for the draft
Posted by CougarBait
on catnip in a cougar's den
Member since Jun 2007
2027 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

How can you judge a person's intelligence by the way they speak


Are you serious?

Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:44 pm to
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How can you judge a person's intelligence by the way they speak?

On the WISC and the WAIS, the subtest that correlates the highest with overall IQ is vocabulary.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9070 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 1:44 pm to
Well alot of the time you can gain a reasonable measure of a person's basic intelligence by their vocabulary, way they structure a sentence, clarity in the way they communicate, and logic in what they say. Obviously that isn't always the case, some incoherent mumblers are very smart and some people who speak well just have word of the day toilet paper. But it's usually a positive correlation
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79509 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:00 pm to
There is an ESPN article discussing this, and Kiper says it wont affect him. His Agent is pissed it got leaked, and one guy who did a study on wonderlic scores vs performance found that DB have an inverse relationship. He literally said the lower they score the better they play. PRO BOWL
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3386 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:01 pm to
First of all, I don't care and it's none of my business.

Whomever leaked this shouldn't feel very good about themselves, and probably wouldn't appreciate their little secrets being made public.

Secondly, Mo obviously had good enough grades to stay eligible to play at LSU. So good for him for fighting through his disability and good for LSU for having the resources to help him.

Lastly, people who gain some sort of satisfaction from this stuff have issues and should probably find other forms of entertainment.
Posted by Larry Hollins
Member since Jul 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:04 pm to
it doesn't matter. he won't get past tampa bay at no.5 and cooper will vouch for him. move on, no story here.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105417 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13868 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

How can you judge a person's intelligence by the way they speak?


You can certainly tell unintelligence when people speak. He doesn't come across that way is what they are saying
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Are you serious?
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:14 pm to
the rant should go after florio and make him pay for his attack on mo
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:15 pm to
oh and dont try to explain this to bama fans, the classiest fanbase in the sec would rather make fun of someone with a learning disability.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:37 pm to
Then they are making fun of their own players. I'm quite sure there is more than one gump player with a learning disability.
Posted by icoczar
birmingham
Member since Sep 2005
1282 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:37 pm to
The title says it all "former scout". If he was good, he wouldn't be former, he'd be current. The former scout has the learning problem, not #17.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10577 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 2:39 pm to
So, what… If the clubs know anything he is not the 1st and it will have no impact on his ability…. This has nothing to do with his actual intelligences.
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