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Question about ball crossing goal line

Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Black
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:37 pm
A running back, near the goal line, can stretch the ball across the plane, and even though he loses the ball, bc the ball broke the plane, it's a touchdown

Why is it different for receivers? They catch the ball, have possession, break the plane, but instead, they have to maintain it through the catch.
This post was edited on 1/7/12 at 8:39 pm
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:39 pm to
it is not considered possession
Posted by LSU77
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:39 pm to
Because thats the rule ?
Posted by tigergym
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:40 pm to
It's not possession!!! According to the rule!!
Posted by Black
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:41 pm to
Which is fine. I get it, the rules are the rules. I was just wondering why the receiver must maintain it through catching, rolling over, and getting up whereas a running back or anyone else just has to break the plane
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:42 pm to
the running back already has possession while crossing...the receiver does not have possession when NOT catching a pass
Posted by dansr731
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:42 pm to
The runner already has possession of the ball when he crosses the goal. The receiver must maintain possession through the catch.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:43 pm to
Can you not understand that the running back has maintained possession before breaking the plane? The same could be said for a wide receiver. If you maintain possesion before breaking the plane, all you need to do is break it.
Posted by ctalati32
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:44 pm to
Because the running back has an established possession when breaking the plane. The wr needs to control it throughout the catch for him to have possession and a td
Posted by Black
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:44 pm to
What's possession? Colston had it all the way until his elbow hit. What made me think of this is last year with Megatron's catch that was reversed
Posted by HeadyMurphey
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Colston had it all the way until


How could he have possesion before he touched the ground?
Posted by Xenophon
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:47 pm to
Lance Moore's two point conversion catch in the super bowl is the perfect example here.

He caught it outside the endzone and stretched it across.. he immediately lost possession after crossing the line, but since he had possession before entering the endzone, the catch was good.

if he makes that same catch in the endzone, it would not have counted.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:50 pm to
Think about the Reid INT against bama. The receiver had the ball, but lost it either on his way down or when he hit. If Reid isn't there and it comes lose when he hits, it's incomplete.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

the receiver does not have possession when NOT catching a pass


stupid rule is stupid. You don't have possession unless you maintain possession. Well...don't I have to have possession before I can maintain it? So shouldn't I have possession? Shouldn't it be a TD?

Yes it should. Stupid rule is stupid. It was called by the rules on the field as it should be. The rule is still stupid.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 8:53 pm to
The rule makes sense.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:18 pm to
I always thought the elbow down with possession was the end of the play.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

The rule makes sense.


of course it does.

i dont understand how people dont get this idea of possession. its not exactly a difficult subject.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:21 pm to
It's different if the player is in the air. If possession hasn't been established, then they have to maintain coming to the ground.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:24 pm to
He has possession and the elbow is down. The rest of his body falls amd then the ball hits turf. I would argue the same if the shoe was on the other foot fwiw.
Posted by Templars
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Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:31 pm to
First off, how do you define possession then - he clearly had the ball for more than two seconds and only lost it as he hit the ground as we all know, cannot cause a fumble.

He clearly had it long enough for the TD - bad call and bad replay officiating.
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