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Citizen Kane...greatest movie ever made?
Posted on 6/23/11 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 6/23/11 at 12:54 pm
Having a debate at work...
Is Citizen Kane the greatest movie ever made?
Is Citizen Kane the greatest movie ever made?
This post was edited on 6/23/11 at 12:55 pm
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Posted on 6/23/11 at 12:56 pm to NoHoTiger
Probably not, but it's on the shortlist. I hate to say one movie is the greatest of all-time, though. If we're being honest, there are a group of films that can be considered the greatest.
but if forced to choose, I choose Vertigo.
but if forced to choose, I choose Vertigo.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 12:58 pm to Baloo
thanks...we're kind of split. about 1/2 say yes and 1/2 say no. i agree that it's in the top 5, but not that it's the greatest movie ever made.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 12:59 pm to NoHoTiger
I wouldn't even say it's the best Orson Wells movie.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 12:59 pm to Baloo
It was ahead of it's time no doubt. A bunch of stuff they were doing were insane compared to today.
Watch it with Ebert's commentary.
Watch it with Ebert's commentary.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:01 pm to NoHoTiger
What's the definition for greatest?
At it's time, it was way ahead of what anyone else was doing.
Welles created/invented numerous camera angles, shots, styles, methods in that movie.
So it's a "genius" type work in the history of movies. A game changer.
At it's time, it was way ahead of what anyone else was doing.
Welles created/invented numerous camera angles, shots, styles, methods in that movie.
So it's a "genius" type work in the history of movies. A game changer.
This post was edited on 6/23/11 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:01 pm to constant cough
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I wouldn't even say it's the best Orson Wells movie.
Touch of Evil.
This post was edited on 6/23/11 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:03 pm to NoHoTiger
It's up there.
I don't think you would have a hard time arguing it for top ten. That's a pretty dang impressive accomplishment in itself. If your even in the discussion you've done something right.
I don't think you would have a hard time arguing it for top ten. That's a pretty dang impressive accomplishment in itself. If your even in the discussion you've done something right.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:04 pm to NoHoTiger
No, I'd put it in top 10, though.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:05 pm to PiscesTiger
The Third Man' (1949) is my second favorite behind Citizen Kane.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:08 pm to Zamoro10
No it is not.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:11 pm to NoHoTiger
No.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:16 pm to Zamoro10
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The Third Man' (1949) is my second favorite behind Citizen Kane.
But Welles didn't direct that. Though I do sign off on its total awesomeness.
Citizen Kane is sort of a film you appreicate more than anything. It's amazing how influential it is. He practically re-invented the language of film, all while writing the Great American Novel. But it's a hard film to love with modern eyes. You can't appreciate on an emotional level with how radical a film it was, only intellectually.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:19 pm to Baloo
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Probably not, but it's on the shortlist. I hate to say one movie is the greatest of all-time, though. If we're being honest, there are a group of films that can be considered the greatest.
This.
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but if forced to choose, I choose Vertigo.
And this would also be in the discussion for me as well. #doppleganger
Also, all this Welles talk and no Magnificent Amberons mentions? Tsk Tsk. Definitely his best film.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:30 pm to Freauxzen
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Also, all this Welles talk and no Magnificent Amberons mentions?
Honestly, I thought that's what people were referring to at first.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:34 pm to Freauxzen
Film is unique, there's really no greatest - no statistical measurement because it's art. There isn't a "greatest artwork" ever painted.
It's all subjective. I like the Graduate and Lawrence of Arabia as top 5 films over films others love like Godfather, Gone with the Wind or Citizen Kane - which "Sight and Sound" continually loves as their greatest picture.
So, you can say Citizen Kane is maybe the most important film ever made in the history of cinema...due in large part to its influence and how we're still talking about it as the best today.
It's all subjective. I like the Graduate and Lawrence of Arabia as top 5 films over films others love like Godfather, Gone with the Wind or Citizen Kane - which "Sight and Sound" continually loves as their greatest picture.
So, you can say Citizen Kane is maybe the most important film ever made in the history of cinema...due in large part to its influence and how we're still talking about it as the best today.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:34 pm to Baloo
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Honestly, I thought that's what people were referring to at first.
After my third viewing, Ambersons, despite it's few flaws including entire sections missing, is on my best films shortlist. It was more ambitious than Kane.
This post was edited on 6/23/11 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:40 pm to Freauxzen
I'm just a dumb country boy who don't like no damn elitist Tarkington adaptations.
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:45 pm to Muppet
Posted on 6/23/11 at 1:48 pm to Baloo
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Citizen Kane is sort of a film you appreicate more than anything. It's amazing how influential it is. He practically re-invented the language of film, all while writing the Great American Novel. But it's a hard film to love with modern eyes. You can't appreciate on an emotional level with how radical a film it was, only intellectually.
Agree with all this. It was a film I appreciated more than enjoyed.
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