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IYO: What Obligation Do NFL Owners Have to Full Financial Disclosure...

Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:53 am
Posted by classictiger
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:53 am
...to the NFLPA?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:54 am to
none
Posted by Kracka
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:54 am to
Because the owners want 8 billion in return. I don't think it's all that much to ask in return. The owners just don't want people to see the stupid salaries and other crap the owners spend money on.
Posted by taylork37
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:56 am to
None, but that doesn't mean the Union has no right to ask.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:57 am to
quote:

The owners just don't want people to see they're fudging numbers and are actually making a shitload of money, but they still want more
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:01 pm to
they have no obligation. but they should be prepared to prove why they "need" more money.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:02 pm to
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Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

They should be prepared to prove why they "need" more money


They can't prove it w/o opening the books
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:04 pm to
A great deal, since the CBA is essentially a revenue sharing agreement.

The NFL owners and the NFL players are in a partnership that agrees to share revenue. If one side claims that they aren't making enough money, then they should prove it.
This post was edited on 3/11/11 at 12:05 pm
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:05 pm to
thats my point. the NFL has no obligation to open the books. but don't ask for more money if your not willing to.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:05 pm to
just curious, why aren't the Packers books open record?
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:08 pm to
Technically? No obligation.

But you can't say you're losing money and want to shift the balance by a billion dollars between the players and owners and provide no financial backup. That's just retarded.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

just curious, why aren't the Packers books open record?


They are. They are the only team which is open and they are turning a profit.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:11 pm to
Some nice person should please find the Packers' financial records online and post them here

thx
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

just curious, why aren't the Packers books open record?



They are open record.
Posted by classictiger
Member since Mar 2007
5795 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Some nice person should please find the Packers' financial records online and post them here



I knew you were specifically talking about me.

Packer Open Up Their Books
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:14 pm to
I've heard that the Packers made $5 million whatever the most recent year their records are available for.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Some nice person should please find the Packers' financial records online and post them here


For the record, I'm an a-hole.

Here's an article on the topic. Keep in mind that the Packers are a non-profit organization.

LINK
Posted by classictiger
Member since Mar 2007
5795 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

and they are turning a profit


Yes, but profits are down, and that downturn coincides with the last CBA

quote:

The Packers earn much less than they did four years ago. Their operating profit fell 71 percent from $34.2 million in the year that ended March 31, 2007 (which coincides with the start of the current collective-bargaining agreement), to $9.8 million in the year that ended last March 31. Revenue rose 18 percent in that period to $257.9 million. The primary reason for the sharply reduced profit was player costs (salaries and benefits), which swelled in those years to $160.8 million from $110.7 million.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 12:17 pm to
It also coincides with the recession, and their investment income also fell...

And keep in mind that the Packers are a non-profit organization...

This post was edited on 3/11/11 at 12:18 pm
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