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Why does Marcus Thornton get no playing time?

Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:10 pm
Posted by gatorhater211
Member since Oct 2007
1166 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:10 pm
Does he not fit Monty's system? I have heard from some people in trade rumors but I'm curious if there is any inside information
Posted by Hank Marducas
Sittin' on the dock of the bay
Member since Sep 2009
5692 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:13 pm to
We just traded him.
Posted by gatorhater211
Member since Oct 2007
1166 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:16 pm to
well that would be a good reason. thanks
Posted by gatorhater211
Member since Oct 2007
1166 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:19 pm to
Do you have a link?
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11898 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:19 pm to
haha you dick
Posted by Hank Marducas
Sittin' on the dock of the bay
Member since Sep 2009
5692 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:27 pm to
No, brah. I'm just frickin with ya. I have no idea why he's not playing. If we were to trade him, I think he'd actually be getting more playing time. It has to be more to it than of him "not playing defense."
This post was edited on 12/8/10 at 10:33 pm
Posted by gatorhater211
Member since Oct 2007
1166 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:45 pm to
Haha you got me. It has to be more than "he doesnt play defense because D. West never plays defense. I was there tonight and just felt that Marcus would bring a spark to a seemingly lackluster bench.
Posted by SL
Member since Nov 2010
54 posts
Posted on 12/9/10 at 7:58 am to
Willie Green can do no wrong in Monty's eye. He's even trying to play Jack and CP3 together to make it work.
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 12/9/10 at 12:57 pm to
Probably because he hasn't been that good the last couple of games he was in. I'm not hating on the guy, I was even rooting for him to start before the season started, but you gotta call it like it is. I know Green makes a lot of bad plays, but he is cleary more reliable than Thornton. What annoys the shite out of me is when the Thornton fanboys will watch a game and see Green make 4 good plays, then 1 bad play and talk about how shitty Green is, then watch Thornton make 4 bad plays, and one good play and talk abot how Thornton should be playing more. OR, when Green throws up a bad shot, he's a black hole; but when Thornton does it, the shot just didn't fall like it should have.
Posted by Pistol...2K4
25 foot assassin
Member since Jun 2004
6918 posts
Posted on 12/9/10 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

What annoys the shite out of me is when the Thornton fanboys will watch a game and see Green make 4 good plays, then 1 bad play and talk about how shitty Green is, then watch Thornton make 4 bad plays, and one good play and talk abot how Thornton should be playing more. OR, when Green throws up a bad shot, he's a black hole; but when Thornton does it, the shot just didn't fall like it should have.


Dude!
couldn't have said it any better
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
83242 posts
Posted on 12/9/10 at 1:54 pm to
Monty Williams hates winning, that's why
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1867 posts
Posted on 12/9/10 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

then watch Thornton make 4 bad plays


I have yet to see Thornton make 4 bad plays this year so your whole argument is bullshite. And your Monty Williams arse licking annoys the shite out of me.

ETA: The losing streak, lack of attendance, and Chouest pulling his offer are all due to Thornton's lack of playing time. But Willie Green is a strong defender.
This post was edited on 12/9/10 at 5:12 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/9/10 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

I have yet to see Thornton make 4 bad plays this year so your whole argument is bullshite


No it's not, it may be exaggerated but it's not bullshite. Green has been playing solid overall and the Thornton groupies want to make it seem like he's terrible while ignoring that Thornton has been fairly ordinary in most of the minutes he has been able to get.
Posted by Pistol...2K4
25 foot assassin
Member since Jun 2004
6918 posts
Posted on 12/9/10 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

mhasen1


you have some really solid takes , and then post some shite that make me think you have a split personality or something

I have watched MT play all year , and lately he seems to force up shite 1 on 3.....believe me it pains me to say it , but Willie is a waaaay better option than MT at this point.
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 12/9/10 at 10:53 pm to
You're an idiot.
None of what you said has any impact on how many minutes Thornton gets.

Demps: Hey guys, Chouest pulled the offer
Monty: Alright cool, then I'm not going to play Marcus tonight. How many tickets have we sold so far?
Demps: Only 10k.
Williams: Yeah, definitely not playing him.
I'm sure that's how it went.


If you haven't seem Marcus make 4 bad plays ALL YEAR then you either
A. haven't been watching
B. are an idiot and don't know what you are watching
C. have Marcus' cock shoved so far down your throat you refuse to admit when he does any wrong.

There's no Monty arse licking here, did you even see me mention his name? Sure Monty has made mistakes when coaching, but I do think overall he's done a good job. Your Thornton cock gargling annoys the shite out of me. The fact that you blame attendance, Couest, and losing streak over his actual play as reason for not receiving playing time shows how fricking stupid you are.
This post was edited on 12/9/10 at 11:50 pm
Posted by Lakefront-Tiger
Da Lakefront
Member since Nov 2004
6092 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 6:42 am to
When he learns to play defense like Monty wants, he'll get more minutes.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
69000 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 6:50 am to
quote:

have yet to see Thornton make 4 bad plays this year so your whole argument is bullshite. And your Monty Williams arse licking annoys the shite out of me.

ETA: The losing streak, lack of attendance, and Chouest pulling his offer are all due to Thornton's lack of playing time. But Willie Green is a strong defender.


this is a joke post, right?
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1867 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 8:29 am to
Joke? No. Exaggeration? Yes.

It's mostly a response to one person who repeatedly said they're proving they can win without Thornton when they were winning games against the clippers and kings. When I said it wouldn't continue, the response was we've won 10 out of 11. Now after losing 6 of 8, the response is that he wouldn't have made a difference anyway.

Anyway, I'm done with this argument.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 9:09 am to
quote:

it wouldn't continue


Of course it wouldn't continue. It wouldn't have continued if Thornton was the full time starter averaging 25ppg. Dominant teams in the NBA end up around .750 - .800 We were playing .900 ball, anyone who thought we'd end the season much above .650 was fooling themselves.

quote:

the response was we've won 10 out of 11. Now after losing 6 of 8


No the response was Monty had the team playing well with a focus on defense first so if he didn't feel Thornton played defense well enough, or was trying to develop him into a better player long term, 10 games in was not enough time to judge it as a bad move. I still don't think you can call it a bad move because except for one game Thornton hasn't taken advantage of his minutes and Willie Green has produced well enough that you can't say "what the hell is he doing getting minutes". Too bad Thornton can't play PG because that's where the opportunity for minutes has been.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:02 pm to
Reasons MT5 doesn't play more:
1)Green is Monty's guy
a)He has a good grasp on the defensive scheme
b)they've known each other for years
2)Thornton lacks the knowledge of defense.Veteran players have to direct on where to be.
3)Monty would rather lose with good d than win with bad d and good o.

Thornton has a much higher ceiling and can make plays including setting up others that Green just can't,but until he understands where he needs to be he won't get a chance to unleash his scoring onslaught.
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