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re: Best defense against the Spread Offense (Florida type)
Posted on 8/4/09 at 11:35 am to ATLTiger
Posted on 8/4/09 at 11:35 am to ATLTiger
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a good ball control offense starring Jacob Hester
Its funny how this works. A good offense is the best defense and a good defense is the best offense.
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I meant a Florida type spread offense in general.
Not Florida in particular.
and i know but putting any teams qb in the dirt consistently is a good defense
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Posted on 8/4/09 at 12:58 pm to Cajunboy19
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One team that's had recent success against UF is Auburn.
Good observation. Auburn has great team speed on defense. Their LB's are usually undersized but very quick, enabling them to matchup. They also brought pressure, Muschamp was DC for the past 2 matchups.
Posted on 8/4/09 at 12:58 pm to mike4lsu
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A 3-3-5 scheme. 3 DLs, 3 LBs and 5 DBs (3 corners + 2 safeties ) playing man to man coverage.
we ran it in 2006
Posted on 8/4/09 at 3:07 pm to TigerBait1127
Didn't Alabama run a 5 man front against Florida the year before satan became coach and they held Florida to far less yards than any other team that year. I can't remember 
Anyone remember that. The only reason I vaguely remember is because of this Alabama friend I had talking about it.
Anyone remember that. The only reason I vaguely remember is because of this Alabama friend I had talking about it.
Posted on 8/4/09 at 3:21 pm to duboisd
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I think you have to go a little old school and apply option principles to stop the Meyer spread.
well considering this is an option offnese, this should be a no brainer
Posted on 8/4/09 at 3:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
a spy should be dedicated to Tebow, surprised it hasn't been done already. when Tebow can't find anybody to pass to his immediate reaction is to take off and run.
This post was edited on 8/4/09 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 8/4/09 at 3:36 pm to tubucoco
Simple. You put 10 guys on the line and let Chad Jones cover everything else.
Posted on 8/4/09 at 4:01 pm to Nawlens Gator
The thing that Auburn did better than anyone else was tackling. The first guy that's in position to make the tackle HAS to make the tackle. Otherwise, with guys like Rainey and Demps, one or two missed tackles turns into a TD.
It helped that Auburn had smaller, faster LBs.
It helped that Auburn had smaller, faster LBs.
Posted on 8/4/09 at 4:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well considering this is an option offnese, this should be a no brainer
You would think it would be a no brainer, but that's not always the case.
Posted on 8/4/09 at 4:14 pm to Nawlens Gator
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Simple. You put 10 guys on the line and let Chad Jones cover everything else.
Posted on 8/4/09 at 4:18 pm to mike4lsu
Base 4-3 with a lot of nickel packages
It's not about the scheme. It's about the personnel. You need to get penetration early and often to disrupt that offense. You're not going to beat them with superior coverage. You have to beat them up front.
It's not about the scheme. It's about the personnel. You need to get penetration early and often to disrupt that offense. You're not going to beat them with superior coverage. You have to beat them up front.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 12:48 am to mike4lsu
1) Talk to TCU. They're playing better D than anyone else out there. They did well against Utah and Boise St and ok vs OU last year.
2) It seem like OU and Bama did some things well against them - for 3 qtrs. But Tebow was Tebow in the 4th qtr. Nick's approach was to control the box (opposite of the Malleveto approach which was to let our LB's chase track-star wannabees all over the field) and sounds similar to Chavis's approach to "keep the LB's on the field."
3) As someone mentioned about AU in '07, Auburn tackled really well. I recall Muschamp himself making that point.
4) Our '07 effort was ok. In reality, UF probably only punted once the first three qtrs and move the ball seemingly with ease. But we owned them in the 4th qtr on both sides of the ball. I don't think Pelini really had a clue but he did have some great athletes playing their tails off.
2) It seem like OU and Bama did some things well against them - for 3 qtrs. But Tebow was Tebow in the 4th qtr. Nick's approach was to control the box (opposite of the Malleveto approach which was to let our LB's chase track-star wannabees all over the field) and sounds similar to Chavis's approach to "keep the LB's on the field."
3) As someone mentioned about AU in '07, Auburn tackled really well. I recall Muschamp himself making that point.
4) Our '07 effort was ok. In reality, UF probably only punted once the first three qtrs and move the ball seemingly with ease. But we owned them in the 4th qtr on both sides of the ball. I don't think Pelini really had a clue but he did have some great athletes playing their tails off.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 6:00 am to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
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consistently putting Tebow arse in the dirt is the best defense against a Florida offense.
+1
Posted on 8/5/09 at 6:13 am to TigersRock
I think if you blitz and get pressure on Tebow you can stop them. I'm not worried about UF after this season b/c Tebow can break tackles, I doubt their other Qb's can do the same.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 6:14 am to xenythx
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It helped that Auburn had smaller, faster LBs.
You and Dennis make the same observation. Didn't Chavis move personnel around in the Spring to improve the speed of our LB corp? We really need to become leaner and quicker (comment inserted for SFP) on D - see Miami back in the hay day - to adjust for the spread offense trend.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 9:29 am to ATLTiger
4-2-5, with all linemen standing up with LB's. This could create havoc trying to figure out which ones are in coverage and which ones are coming. The only real big guy could be nose to help plug the middle and the other linemen would have to be agile for coverage.
Posted on 8/5/09 at 9:31 am to mike4lsu
The Dome Patrol
Posted on 8/5/09 at 10:07 am to sader07
4-3 with lots of blitzing... put the heat on teblow all night!
Posted on 8/5/09 at 10:15 am to mike4lsu
I already figured this out last year but nobody listened (as happens with most geniouses).
5-1-5
UF offense relies on spreading out the defensive line to create running lanes for fast RBs and their QB. Because of this, passing oportunities open up when safeties and LBs crowd up to the line.
Solution: 5 strong athletic linemen to crowd running lanes. LSU has an embarrasing abundance of these. 1 middle LB to shadow or blitz the QB. 5 fast cover men to cover WR, TE, or RB routes. You'll usually have 1 extra defensive back to either double cover or blitz.
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5-1-5
UF offense relies on spreading out the defensive line to create running lanes for fast RBs and their QB. Because of this, passing oportunities open up when safeties and LBs crowd up to the line.
Solution: 5 strong athletic linemen to crowd running lanes. LSU has an embarrasing abundance of these. 1 middle LB to shadow or blitz the QB. 5 fast cover men to cover WR, TE, or RB routes. You'll usually have 1 extra defensive back to either double cover or blitz.
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