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re: What Has Jimbo Achieved Outside of Jameis to Deserve LSU Job?

Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3613 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:07 am to
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Freakin this... Jimbo would be a rockstar hire...what are these guuys thinking? The only coaches i would take over him are Saban (lol) and mayyyyybe Chip Kelly.


I'd take Urban over Fisher but not Saban. Maybe Saban 5 years ago but honestly, how much longer do we think he coaches? There are several coaches out there that would make good coaches but Fisher is a home-run and if we can get him, we should.

BTW - I know I'm dreaming and this comparison just assumes we'd have a realistic shot at getting any of these guys. I know we have 0% chance at Urban or Saban, maybe 5% chance for Kelly, but I think we have a reasonable shot at Fisher given where he is in his career and the fact that he was our OC for 7 years.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 11:11 am
Posted by General13
Mobile
Member since Dec 2008
1363 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:08 am to
It might not be a deal breaker. I just can guarantee that it's going to be part of the conversation. Moving an ex would be too.

This hire is just more complicated than numbers.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42452 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:09 am to
If Jimbo was still married, it would make the move much more likely
Posted by mtnhighTiger
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since Jan 2010
3934 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:10 am to
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Jameis just magically arrived on campus and won us a title


Yes, don't you know he just materialized out of thin air?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59053 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:11 am to
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In the ACC. How do you think Ponder and Manuel would have performed against Bama's defense or even LSU's


Which Bama defense? 2011? Or the 2014 version that got ripped to pieces by Nick fricking Marshall and damn near got beat by LSU with Anthony Jennings? News flash, Bama is just 1 team, There are not 14 versions of that D in the SEC.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70885 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:14 am to
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He would have accomplished nothing if he hadn't had Winston.


12-2 pre Winston
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:24 am to
Bama is the Genesis of this whole ordeal. If you don't think Jimbo can beat Saban more often than not, he isn't the guy for the job
Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
41433 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:32 am to
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Bama is the Genesis of this whole ordeal



then why did all this talk come up after Arkansas and not Bama?




its because he is like 19-13 in the SEC in the last 4 years
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59053 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 12:38 pm to
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Bama is the Genesis of this whole ordeal. If you don't think Jimbo can beat Saban more often than not, he isn't the guy for the job




If that is the standard, then we might as well cancel the program. I can only think of 3 coaches in all of US football that are even in Saban's zip code and they are not leaving New England, Seattle or Ohio State for LSU. No one is or will beat Saban more often than not, but you don't have to, you just to beat him and then lose no more than 1 other game in the SEC to win the West and make the playoff.

And keep in mind, Fisher is 50, Saban is 64.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 1:05 pm to
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They were ready to kick him out the door before the 2013 season but having a Heisman QB saved his job.


They won the Orange Bowl in 2012...
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 1:06 pm to
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Which Bama defense? 2011? Or the 2014 version that got ripped to pieces by Nick fricking Marshall and damn near got beat by LSU with Anthony Jennings?


Yes, Jennings led LSU to an incredible 13 points with OT

While going 8/26 for 76 yards.

All Jennings
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59053 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 1:27 pm to
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Yes, Jennings led LSU to an incredible 13 points with OT

While going 8/26 for 76 yards.

All Jennings


why don't read the context cochise. He asked how Christian Ponder, who became a first round pick under Jimbo would do vs Bama's D since he played in the ACC. My retort is that, if LSU can damn near beat Bama with Jennings, I'm feel confident that we could beat them with a QB like Ponder but it also depends on the year. All Bama defenses are not created equal. The 2011 D was a n epic all time D. This year's looking better and better each week. Last year had holes, which Auburn and ultimately OSU blew apart.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 1:29 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 1:29 pm to
I did read the context, and the example you used was idiotic.

That Bama defense dominated the lsu offense you used as an example. They held LSU to under 3 yards per pass. So yes, that Bama defense

Derp
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 1:32 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59053 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 1:36 pm to
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I did read the context, and the example you used was idiotic.


Then you didn't read the context or you are seriously lacking in reading comprehension skills.

Let me lay it our for you, I WAS NOT arguing that LSU's O was great against Bama or that Jennings was good (you act like his stat line vs Bama was different from his other games BTW) just that IF WE HAD A BETTER QB, LIKE PONDER, we could have beaten them. He asked what Ponder would do vs Bama, I see no reason to think, depending on the year, that he wouldn't do well jeez.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 1:46 pm to
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Then you didn't read the context or you are seriously lacking in reading comprehension skills.



You just suck at making points

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, I WAS NOT arguing that LSU's O was great against Bama or that Jennings was good (you act like his stat line vs Bama was different from his other games BTW) just that IF WE HAD A BETTER QB, LIKE PONDER, we could have beaten them.


Then you should have said beat Bama instead of bringing up a game where Bama's D was great and a game where they weren't.

Jennings didn't amost beat Bama's D, LSU almost beat Bama (because of our D performance)

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you act like his stat line vs Bama was different from his other games BTW


Because I'm not an idiot and it was worse than almost every other game.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68377 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 3:14 pm to
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miles got off to an easier start b/c he was handed a program stocked with saban-quality talent and he was forced to keep a jimbo-quality coach jimbo had neither advantage at FSU


Well he had been recruiting his offensive players for 4 years by then. It wasnt like he was starting fresh at that point. FSU had multiple highly rated classes before and after he became OC. FSU was loaded, like always.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4927 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 4:20 pm to
The man develops quarterbacks, can recruit, has won a Natty, and has an LSU connection
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71329 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 4:31 pm to
Ha. Belichick, Harbaugh, Bruce Arians, Carroll, and probably Sexy Rexy could do the same or better with Sabans resources at this stage.

Tomlin, Fox, Reid and others are close to the conversation too.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4370 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 4:34 pm to
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He would have accomplished nothing if he hadn't had Winston.


With the exception of three plays, our defense played well against Arkansas. Also, Kate Upton wouldn't be on the cover of the swimsuit edition if she didn't have tits. Guess what? Jimbo brought Winston to FSU just the same that Steele's Defense shite the bed against Arkansas and Kate Upton has a huge rack.


Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27720 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 4:39 pm to
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undecided


What did Les Miles do to deserve LSU job?

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