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Success of Coaches With a Second Chance After Being Fired at a Previous Spot
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:07 am
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:07 am
Comparing the NFL to college just ain't the same, it takes a completely different skill set for coaching at that level, and not all NFL organizations are run the same. So just looking at college only, has a college head coach ever been fired from one major college job and then succeeded when hired as head coach at another major college program?
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Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:10 am to Choupique19
They also mention Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick who are not object failures in their first stints and had really good years.
Belichick brought the Browns 11 wins and the postseason. The Browns. He was better than his predecessor and successor. Both were elite coordinators as well.
People are just really, really stupid.
Belichick brought the Browns 11 wins and the postseason. The Browns. He was better than his predecessor and successor. Both were elite coordinators as well.
People are just really, really stupid.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:11 am to TheCaterpillar
Compare that with someone who went 3-21 in conference, regressed every year, went 0-8 in his third year with "his players and coaches", and was worse than both his predecessor and successor.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:14 am to Choupique19
Gene Stallings might be the only example, but he had much more experience and had one winning season at A&M and had two nearly .500 records with the Cardinals in the pros.
Alabama also hired a DL coach to replace him and suffered for a decade for it.
Alabama also hired a DL coach to replace him and suffered for a decade for it.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:15 am to TheCaterpillar
Gene Stallings. 27-45-1 at Texas A&M from 1965 to 1971. The Aggies did win the SWC and the Cotton Bowl in the 1967 season. Every other season was a losing record.
19 years later, took over at Alabama in 1990. We know the rest.
19 years later, took over at Alabama in 1990. We know the rest.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:17 am to Tiger Phil
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19 years later, took over at Alabama in 1990. We know the rest.
He won a NC, and then retired so Alabama hired a DL coach who destroyed their program.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:18 am to Tiger Phil
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Gene Stallings. 27-45-1 at Texas A&M from 1965 to 1971. The Aggies did win the SWC and the Cotton Bowl in the 1967 season. Every other season was a losing record.
19 years later, took over at Alabama in 1990. We know the rest.
Good find. Of course, Alabama didn't pull him out of the trash bin. He was a head coach in the NFL in his previous gig before Alabama hired him.
So I guess Coach O should get a head gig in the NFL before a big time college gives him another shot at running the program, right?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:21 am to Choupique19
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So I guess Coach O should get a head gig in the NFL before a big time college gives him another shot at running the program, right?
Or a head gig somewhere else, for the love of all that is holy.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:30 am to Choupique19
This is a stretch, but Ron Zook got Illinois to a Rose Bowl after being fired from Florida. Other than a couple other lame bowls, that was it though.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:31 am to Tiger Phil
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Gene Stallings. 27-45-1 at Texas A&M from 1965 to 1971. The Aggies did win the SWC and the Cotton Bowl in the 1967 season. Every other season was a losing record.
19 years later, took over at Alabama in 1990. We know the rest.
been waiting for weeks for O supporters to pull out this example.
It is the 1 and only example of this happening, so sure I guess it's possible. You're talking about hitting the lotto though.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:33 am to nvasil1
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This is a stretch, but Ron Zook got Illinois to a Rose Bowl after being fired from Florida. Other than a couple other lame bowls, that was it though.
Good one.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:35 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You're talking about hitting the lotto though.
But he's learned from his mistakes!
Which is a weird thing to say, because he made a shite ton of mistakes at Ole Miss. I mean, what mistakes has he learned from? That he now lets his coordinators coordinate? That was his mistake at Ole Miss?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:42 am to Choupique19
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Comparing the NFL to college just ain't the same, it takes a completely different skill set for coaching at that level, and not all NFL organizations are run the same. So just looking at college only, has a college head coach ever been fired from one major college job and then succeeded when hired as head coach at another major college program?
Outside of Urban, Saban, & Petrino, pretty sure the 2nd job for most top coaches is worse off than the first regardless of if they left on their own or were fired.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:43 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Outside of Urban, Saban, & Petrino, pretty sure the 2nd job for most top coaches is worse off than the first regardless of if they left on their own or were fired.
Harbs
who else would you consider a "top coach"
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:44 am to crazy4lsu
Gene Chizik - 5-19 at Iowa State
Won an NC at Auburn (with Cam)
Won an NC at Auburn (with Cam)
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:45 am to Mickey Goldmill
Peterson?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:45 am to Chinese Bandit
even though he got that NC i think Chiz is viewed by most as an ultimately poor hire.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:46 am to Chinese Bandit
chizik wasnt fired from Iowa St
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:46 am to Chinese Bandit
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Gene Chizik - 5-19 at Iowa State
Won an NC at Auburn (with Cam)
He was wildly considered to be a shite hire at the time. He got lucky, or paid a lot of money, and got a once in a generation player to come to Auburn for 1 season. Outside of that, he failed miserably.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:48 am to Draconian Sanctions
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even though he got that NC i think Chiz is viewed by most as an ultimately poor hire.
I agree wholeheartedly...but it's not impossible. I don't think O has was it takes personally....but if we hire him I will support him and hope he can be the exception and not the rule
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