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Someone please explain to me how Briles was the Baylor scapegoat

Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:48 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70890 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:48 pm
And don't reference the goddamn election, for once.

All accounts I've read, yes through the media, point to the fact that he turned a blind eye to a players gang raping a girl.

I understand he's not in jail. I understand he may have been the scapegoat. I understand no one is in jail.

But I also understand that he was forced out, and at bare minimum it looks like he flat out ignored potential rape.

I want LSU offense to be great again as well, but can someone please provide me some backstory to help me hop on this wagon? I don't get why some are so hell bent on offense that they'd be willing to sacrifice integrity.

Am I missing something from this story besides "baw it's the media!!1"
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57445 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:51 pm to
when you turn an "blind eye" to players raping women it usually doesn't look good
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:51 pm to
The 60 Minutes about this was really bad.

They can prove he knew of allegations of several of his players and either didn't punish them or lightly punished them.

There were coverups going up to the administration and police force.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59587 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:51 pm to
[img]"He was made aware of one of the allegations of a gang rape," Harper told the Morning News. "At least one of them. I can't tell you if he knew or didn't know about the others."[/img]
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

All accounts I've read, yes through the media, point to the fact that he turned a blind eye to a players gang raping a girl.



The thing is, the only people that actually know are Briles, the Baylor Regents (or whatever) and the Pep Hamilton law firm. There is a reason Baylor had the firm give them only an oral report and it was only privy to a very private few.

Briles may have been the #1 perpetrator or he might have been. Either way, he was the perfect scapegoat for the private university to throw under the rug.

Also, Briles brought a wrongful termination suit and Baylor settled it for (reportedly) almost the entire amount of his contract which is a little suspicious.

I dont think anyone thinks we actually hire him, just a bunch of people letting off frustration right now. He's unhirable.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:52 pm to
So it sounds like total lack of institutional control that goes beyond Briles. That goes to the top of a Baptist school.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70890 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:53 pm to
So why do we have threads with 99% up votes on bringing this scumbag in?

What the frick is wrong with this board?

I get we want to win and everyone is mad, but it's like a collective group is deciding to let this shite go
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

So it sounds like total lack of institutional control that goes beyond Briles. That goes to the top of a Baptist school.


Yes, absolutely. Briles got fired and others didn't, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't have been fired.

It was really bad.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:54 pm to
I hope all the Briles talk is just sarcasm. I don't want that guy anywhere near LSU. We put up 547 yards @ Arky and 622 yards @ aTm, with our TE coach calling the plays. Any competent OC that comes in here will be able to work wonders, especially someone like Kiffin (who might be a douchebag but didn't ignore rape allegations).
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

So why do we have threads with 99% up votes on bringing this scumbag in?

What the frick is wrong with this board?

I get we want to win and everyone is mad, but it's like a collective group is deciding to let this shite go


Because we're going to the dark side.

He's being rehabilitated and we can just monitor him on our shadow staff as an offensive consultant.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:54 pm to
Exactly. Please delete this thread
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70890 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:56 pm to
Yea I'm all for that until we start joking about hiring this piece of shite

Those threads need to be deleted

Thousands of people read this goddamn forum

What the frick is wrong with you mother frickers
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70890 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:57 pm to
Oh so because he institution is corrupt at its core, Briles gets a pass, because you wanna throw the football better

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:57 pm to
We're selling our souls.

Don't let this guy near anyone except our OC.

Gag order, lock down, only speaks to Orgeron and the OC in private film studies.



Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38738 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:57 pm to
Coach O has been down that dark road

Let him counsel him back.



Sounds like he recruited questionable guys, and then let police police them
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:57 pm to
Yea it seems very clear he at least was aware of what was happening and did nothing just like Paterno. I don't want that piece of shite anywhere near LSU.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17868 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Yea I'm all for that until we start joking about hiring this piece of shite

Those threads need to be deleted

Thousands of people read this goddamn forum

What the frick is wrong with you mother frickers

Sounds like something needs to hit the 'WIN!' bar...
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

Also, Briles brought a wrongful termination suit and Baylor settled it for (reportedly) almost the entire amount of his contract which is a little suspicious


So he was forced out, which is the only evidence people are using to determine he is a terrible person, but then they laid him his contract following a lawsuit for wrongful termination? Are we allowed to consider that? Seems like a guilty man would be glad to get off without someone suing him, or worse.

This whole thing is all rumor and shady as shite.

Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
954 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:59 pm to
I don't know much about the situation.

But.

Are you suggesting he should be blackballed from football completely? Does the man not deserve to make a living?

He got fired as a Head Coach. He wouldn't be a Head Coach. The issues at Baylor have nothing to do with being an Offensive Coordinator. Orgeron is the Head Coach. He's responsible for everything under him.

That said, it's my impression Briles is a pretty good man who was perhaps negligent at best but in no way a man who doesn't warrant a second chance to share his skills with elite athletes.
Posted by PennyPacker
Where things are bigger and better
Member since Jan 2010
1028 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:59 pm to
From the Baylor alum that I know and people who know Briles, he basically delegated the responsibility of player discipline and compliance. He is a pretty intense guy and he focused on the X's and O's of football more than the "management" of his program. Ultimately he is/was responsible. While he does have arrogance about him, nobody that I have talked to believe he knew what was happening. I don't like ignorance as an excuse, but it does beat the alternative I guess.

And I don't like the scapegoat label, it was his program and it happened under his watch. He needs to rebuild his credibility before he is given the keys to a program in my opinion.

So while I don't believe the narrative that he is a "monster" who knew what was going on and was ok with it....... I don't also whip the blame from him either.
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