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So 22-3 in his first (not even) 2 years as coach isn't good enough for you?

Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:35 pm
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52743 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:35 pm
*assuming he holds on tonight


Would beating UConn, Navy and SMU and losing to No. 9 FSU, No. 3 OU and No. 3 Louisville have made his resume more acceptable?
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 8:54 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:36 pm to
Good because it is Houston
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9034 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:38 pm to
IF LSU can not hire Herman just hire an OC like him, don't need any other coach.
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:39 pm to
20-28 and trying his best is more our style
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:39 pm to
No, we want the guy that is 20-28, yaw, yaw.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61747 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:46 pm to
I'm proud of you, bro. I've spent so much time since 2012 arguing on this site about the inefficiencies of Les Miles that I just don't have it in me to keep arguing with many on here. You are saying everything that I would like to say, and many times even better.

Keep fighting the good fight for the next 10-12 days until LSU gets the coach we deserve. No "settling" will do.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28087 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:48 pm to
Just hire coach O, save money, and surround him with badass assistants baw

He bleeds purple and gold and is a good dude!
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 8:49 pm
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:50 pm to
Bo Rein was 27-18-1 in a crappy 70's ACC. Many act like he was the Jesus of coaching, yet they bash Herman's resume.
Posted by Mikethegreat
Member since Sep 2016
375 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:20 pm to
Can't fix stupid people don't even try. He's my number 1 pick but look for him to be at Texas, so doesn't really matter.
Posted by lurkr
Member since Jan 2008
12365 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:21 pm to
What was sumlins record at Houston?
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36299 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:29 pm to
We need Herman
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52743 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:46 pm to
Somewhat fair comparison. Sumlin was the "it" guy in 2011.

35-17

18-9 in his first two years. Year three was 5-7 because Keenum was hurt.

Inherited Keenum like Herman inherited Ward.

Beat No. 5 Okie State on the road.

Facilities weren't as good at UH back then.

The primary difference under Herman has been the defense, which is world's better. I think the defense may have even improved under Levine with Gibbs at DC. If/when Herman leaves, Orlando could be the next HC. Tonight's performance illustrates why.


Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5655 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

Just hire coach O, save money, and surround him with badass assistants baw He bleeds purple and gold and is a good dude!


If we hire CEO. We better save money for the next coaching search in 3 years.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30275 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:28 pm to
Anyone that can't see the Magical Mensa..isn't paying attention.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7137 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

So 22-3 in his first (not even) 2 years as coach isn't good enough for you?


The only thing acceptable is 25-0 & every win a 77-0 blowout.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:55 pm to
Herman is a grade A homerun. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
Posted by lurkr
Member since Jan 2008
12365 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:12 pm to
Thank you Mattz.

I'm just going to be happy if we end up with an 80% winning coach with top 5 recruiting classes.

There is a 60% to 70% chance this coaching change is a failure.
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

Beat No. 5 Okie State on the road.



Winning once against a top-10 opponent can sometimes come down to pure luck. If the ranked team is having an off night and your team catches all the breaks, then anything is possible.

However, when your program with inferior resources and talent manages to beat three top-10 programs in less than a year, it is no longer a matter of luck. There is significant skill and scheming involved for a coaching staff to defeat three vastly superior programs. When you realize how dominant Houston was in each of those performances, it makes it all the more impressive.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10441 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:19 pm to
Herman has won some big games, but I think he's overrated. He may be a great hire, or he could fail miserably. People act like he walked into nothing at UH, but they had plenty of talent there, especially Ward.

That said, his recruiting hasn't been spectactular.
UH in 2013 = 56
UH in 2014 = 76
UH in 2015 = 92 (his first year)
UH in 2016 = 36 (last year)

In reality, we know very little on his long term recruiting ability. That is a big deal, because he's not going to have the talent edge in the SEC games like he does at UH vs teams like SMU and others.

Further more, plenty of guys have looked great at mid-majors and gone to the Power 5 and failed despite beating the big boys like Herman has. Dan Hawkins is an example of this.

Now, Herman is likely a big time boom or bust guy here. It's not that hard to get your guys up for one or two big games a year, and the losses this year are concerning. Also, no offense, but FSU had been an NC winner and playoff team the previous two years. I'd say they weren't as thrilled to be playing in the Peach Bowl last season whereas Houston was in heaven to be there.

It matters.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:19 pm to
I'm all for UF canning our garbage staff and hiring Herman. He's Meyer 2.0. I hope LSU hires Fisher or Ed O.
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