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Saban $20 mill in hole due to bad real estate investments w LSU and Bama alums

Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:45 am
Posted by Jesus Prejean
Member since Jan 2012
258 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:45 am
Due to 08-09 downturn. Sounds like the old Arky coach.

Anyway, Texas is wiping this debt:

LINK

Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:46 am to
I didn't read the article, but I just don't see any way possible that saban owes $20M on anything, considering the money he makes.
Posted by arseinclarse
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Member since Apr 2007
34404 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:47 am to
It's called bad investments. He took a gamble and lost when others fell into bankruptcy.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 7:48 am
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15705 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:47 am to
If true, this makes sense.

20 million in debt is a tough spot even if you make 7 million a year.

I guess this nonsense could be true.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22128 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:47 am to
You'd say the same about the 75% of athletes that are bankrupt within 3 years if retirement. Or whatever the figures are. You get the point
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15789 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:48 am to
lol you wish
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29343 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:48 am to
If that's true, holy hell. Is any football coach worth that much money?
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15573 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:49 am to
quote:

I just don't see any way possible that saban owes $20M on anything


These particular stories aren't bullshite. He is definitely on the hook in a few developments for a large chunk of cash.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:50 am to
It's true
Posted by AscensionTiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jun 2004
3658 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:51 am to
Perkins Rowe
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15573 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:52 am to
That's just one.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10148 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:54 am to
All true, just because you make millions doesn't mean you still can't be broke as shite.
Posted by The Sockster
Grayslake, Illinois
Member since Oct 2006
1030 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:56 am to
If true and also true that Texas will pay off his debt, then he's gone. That's got to be huge for Saban knowing that he can retired free and clear of any debt.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89445 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:58 am to
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20 million in debt is a tough spot even if you make 7 million a year.


Put it another way - if your gross income is $120k, and you're $360k in debt (and let's assume your house is paid for) -

A 10-year business loan of $360k would be $3100 to $3200 per month. I'm not saying you are bankrupt, but the single biggest discussion you have with your wife, kids, friends, co-workers would be, "I've got to get out from under this debt."

Now, a $20 million debt payment would be 50 times that - $150k per month. Even if I'm grossing 7 million (he's not quite there yet, but he will be) - I'm only clearing a little over $300k per month - $320k tops. Now, if I have to fork over HALF of that for a bad business debt - and for 10 years? Eff that, particularly if somebody thinks I'm worth $10 million AND will eat some/all of that $20 million principal (which effectively increases my income an additional 10 to 15 percent).

This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 8:02 am
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24931 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:58 am to
So he ate Little Debbies because that was all he could afford?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25868 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:00 am to
quote:

I didn't read the article, but I just don't see any way possible that saban owes $20M on anything, considering the money he makes.

When you make a lot of money, you can take out big loans to make investments. If those investments go south, you're in trouble.
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11312 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:02 am to
quote:

I didn't read the article, but I just don't see any way possible that saban owes $20M on anything, considering the money he makes.


Every person who was involved with the Perkins Rowe project lost their arse
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5454 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:04 am to
I think TD is fueling this fire. Someone posts some nonsense rumor here, then another site picks it up and person 1 has just created evidence. For all we know Jimmy Sexton is He Gone.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:07 am to
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Anyway, Texas is wiping this debt:


IF the boosters are buying up his debt, then that would make Nick and Terry Saban debt slaves to these powerful indiscreet money people. I don't think that the couple appreciate people on message boards discussing their business.

I don't think Nick Saban wants to be anyone's slave.

The way that the powers in Texas are handling the Mack situation has been mismanaged. There's a lot of trolling, but press leaks also.

IIRC, when he came to Alabama, it took him months to sign his contract. He was in TTown working hard, but had not signed.

We will know soon what he and his family decide to do. If he goes, I worry about who he will take with him. I don't want to lose Cochran.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 8:08 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89445 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:13 am to
quote:

Why would that be, almost every space has been and is leased.


I think they had to fire sale the space, though - when you buy high and sell low - you still sold, but lost money, anyway.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 8:14 am
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